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To: Starwind; the_doc; RnMomof7; CCWoody; jude24
John 5:28-29 "Do not marvel at this; for an hour is coming, in which all who are in the tombs will hear His voice, 29 and will come forth; those who did the good deeds to a resurrection of life, those who committed the evil deeds to a resurrection of judgment. We will all come forth to judgment at the white throne in a single hour, but we don't all come forth in resurrection in a single hour. The resurrection of life [zwhV <2222>] and the resurrection of judgement [krisewV <2920>] are two different resurrections:

Aren't you forgetting a resurrection or two? Premil teaching actually specifies three resurrections, possibly even four.

First, the resurrection of the church at the rapture.

Second, the resurrection of OT believing Israel seven years later at the end of the great tribulation.

Third, those who have come to faith during the great tribulation, both Jew and Gentile believers, still have bodies that will die and they will die during the millennial reign. Rev. 7:9 describes these as a great multitude which no man could number. They will need to be raised immortal at some point.

Fourth, the resurrection of unbelieving dead at the great white throne judgment.

2,436 posted on 12/15/2002 4:03:45 PM PST by gdebrae
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To: gdebrae
p>Aren't you forgetting a resurrection or two? Premil teaching actually specifies three resurrections, possibly even four.

This is likely an unsatisfying answer, but I don't pretend to ascribe to (or even know precisely what) the premil or even the amil position is. I'm simply arguing my own literal interpretation of scripture, which I gather on this thread tends to lump me with the premil camp. The question also presumes a consistent position for all premils (not likely), and again, I only know my own position.

This post #2431 was an attempt to fit John 5:24-29 to Rev 20, so I didn't attempt to see where "additional" resurrections fall. And we don't when the rapture happens, other than it is not later than Christ's return in Rev 19.

Second, the resurrection of OT believing Israel seven years later at the end of the great tribulation.

I've said before I have no position on the OT land promises or Israel v Church arguments.

Third, those who have come to faith during the great tribulation, both Jew and Gentile believers, still have bodies that will die

I didn't fit this in the post because it doesn't bear (I thought) on John 5:24-29. But I have argued these are the souls John sees of Rev 20:4. In my table I labeled it "Judges on thrones and Tribulation Saints reign" in 1st column, 2nd row.

Rev. 7:9 describes these as a great multitude which no man could number. They will need to be raised immortal at some point.

In my pre-wrath rapture viewpoint, this great multitude are the raptured saints.

Fourth, the resurrection of unbelieving dead at the great white throne judgment.

I did also cover this in my table labeled "'dead' are judged on works" in 1st column, 12th row and I duscussed the 'rest of the dead' when I alluded to "All the unsaved who remain in tombs will come forth in a single hour in physcial resurrection, but at the white throne."

2,441 posted on 12/15/2002 5:10:02 PM PST by Starwind
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