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To: gdebrae
p>Aren't you forgetting a resurrection or two? Premil teaching actually specifies three resurrections, possibly even four.

This is likely an unsatisfying answer, but I don't pretend to ascribe to (or even know precisely what) the premil or even the amil position is. I'm simply arguing my own literal interpretation of scripture, which I gather on this thread tends to lump me with the premil camp. The question also presumes a consistent position for all premils (not likely), and again, I only know my own position.

This post #2431 was an attempt to fit John 5:24-29 to Rev 20, so I didn't attempt to see where "additional" resurrections fall. And we don't when the rapture happens, other than it is not later than Christ's return in Rev 19.

Second, the resurrection of OT believing Israel seven years later at the end of the great tribulation.

I've said before I have no position on the OT land promises or Israel v Church arguments.

Third, those who have come to faith during the great tribulation, both Jew and Gentile believers, still have bodies that will die

I didn't fit this in the post because it doesn't bear (I thought) on John 5:24-29. But I have argued these are the souls John sees of Rev 20:4. In my table I labeled it "Judges on thrones and Tribulation Saints reign" in 1st column, 2nd row.

Rev. 7:9 describes these as a great multitude which no man could number. They will need to be raised immortal at some point.

In my pre-wrath rapture viewpoint, this great multitude are the raptured saints.

Fourth, the resurrection of unbelieving dead at the great white throne judgment.

I did also cover this in my table labeled "'dead' are judged on works" in 1st column, 12th row and I duscussed the 'rest of the dead' when I alluded to "All the unsaved who remain in tombs will come forth in a single hour in physcial resurrection, but at the white throne."

2,441 posted on 12/15/2002 5:10:02 PM PST by Starwind
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To: Starwind
In my pre-wrath rapture viewpoint, this great multitude are the raptured saints.

I'm a bit confused by your answer. You seem to suggest that in Rev. 7:9-17 there are two different groups mentioned.

According to the passage, however, the vast multitude which cannot be numbered are those that have come out of the great tribulation. Vss 13,14 one of elders asks - who are these in the white robes? and he answers that they have come out of the great tribulation. They are before the throne of God. vs 16 They shall hunger no more, neither thirst any more..." and vs 17 "...and God shall wipe away every tear from their eyes." It also seems that they will no longer be touched by sin or death.

Perhaps you can clarify that for me.

2,442 posted on 12/15/2002 5:22:56 PM PST by gdebrae
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