Posted on 11/01/2002 1:12:37 PM PST by winner45
Ten Reasons to Vote for Libertarians
....even if you don’t like them!
1..Libertarians understand that freedom requires responsibility. Freedom can be denied to those who harm others or the property of others.
2..Libertarians ALWAYS vote against tax increases and ALWAYS vote for freedom.
3..Libertarians understand that freedom and equality go hand in hand. Your freedom to live as you please is given to you by the same authority which gives freedom to the persons who may have different lifestyles. You have to give them their freedom to do that to obtain your freedom.
4..Your freedom is not given by the Constitution. It is given from a higher power. Libertarians understand that the Constitution merely sets it down on paper.
5..Libertarians understand that God is of libertarian spirit. He gave humanity free will. He could have just as easily made humanity incapable of free choice. It is kind of arrogant for government to deny the freedom that God Himself has given. When the Israelites wanted a king, God was offended. Laws by man are petty and inferior.
6..If you are unhappy with both Democrats and Republicans, register your unhappiness with a vote for a Libertarian. If a Libertarian got 30% of the vote, it would scare the pants off of the ruling class. They would become more receptive to reason.
7..Libertarians understand that a good society is built upon hard working individuals doing their best in a responsible way. It seems that the ruling parties think that a good society is built upon government group efforts wherein people work (shirk) together.
8..Libertarians understand that the Bill of Rights is as relevant and crucially important today as it was over 200 years ago. Libertarians even think that our government should start observing it once more.
9..Libertarians realize that freedom has many limitations. The winners of elections do not have the right to lord the will of the majority over the rights of the minorities.
10..Libertarians are the only political people that believe that 98% of our citizens are morally good enough and intelligent enough to run their own lives. Basic laws are there to protect us from the other 2%.
Before I start my research into the living conditions of Haiti perhaps you could enlighten me as to the causes of thier poverty? And the causes for our wealth?
EBUCK
That sums up this whole GOP vs. Libertarian argument perfectly. It really comes to a free market in politics, doesn't it? Republicans love to preach competition, but they don't like to practice it.
No problem, I wasn't taking it literally just using the federal prisons as an example of the futility of regulation.
Nope, stopping illegals from entering our country is as simple as putting the military on the border (it is their Constitutionally mandated job to protect us from all enimies foriegn and domsetic BTW).
You're right... the military does have a duty to protect us from both kinds of enemies. The problem is there is no effective way to separate the criminal illegals from the ones just looking for a better life and willing to work hard here to achieve it.
But there is an effective way to end the welfare state. Vote for the only candidates who have demonstrated a consistent committment to do just that, the Libertarians (or Constitution Party if you they're on the ballot in your area).
You're right again; trying to stop people from immigrating to this country won't end welfare but ending welfare will stop the kind of lazy people we don't want from immigrating. Besides rolling back the welfare state is both moral and possible unlike militarizing the border which is neither.
Like how we're going to deal with the skyrocketing drug addiction that would accompany legalization.
Did we have skyrocketing alcoholism when we ended Prohibition?
You're right... the military does have a duty to protect us from both kinds of enemies. The problem is there is no effective way to separate the criminal illegals from the ones just looking for a better life and willing to work hard here to achieve it.
Well, according to current law there are no non-criminal entrants other than those that entered legally. Taken as a purely law-and-order issue they should all be stopped (or as many as militarily possible).
We can't just assume that they are all hard workers looking for work. Especially in light of the current geo-political situation. We must screen those attempting to enter the country. At the very least we must document those entering the country if for no other purpose than to put them near the same level, employability/taxability, as actual citizens. As it stands now there is no record of them coming into the country, just estimates of how many from INS observations.
Consider this country your home and it become a bit easier to consder the option of screening those that enter. Who would you let into your home? If you ran a business would you just let everyone come in to work for you without first interviewing them and checking their references?
But there is an effective way to end the welfare state. Vote for the only candidates who have demonstrated a consistent committment to do just that, the Libertarians (or Constitution Party if you they're on the ballot in your area).
I agree that the welfare state must be eliminated but with 11.7% (Source) of the country at or below the welfare recipient level, and an inclusive 51% of the country voting for politicians that support the welfare state (RAT voters), that aint gonna happen, least not democratically.
Facing the reality of the welfare state, I have decided that the proper path is that of lessening the burden of welfare on me and my family (not to mention the other hidden costs of illegal immigration, health care costs, insurance costs, tax revenue loss due to non-reported employment).
We can agree to disagree until you come up a viable plan to end welfare.....which short of exterminating the poor aint gonna happen.
EBUCK
Like how we're going to defend our country without a military.
This is what drives me crazy about Republicans. When we Libertarians criticize your stands we use facts, like the actual planks of the GOP platform. You just makes things up without anything backing up your statements. So please show me where in the LP platform it says we won't have a military.
I always have and always will admire Pres. Reagan and also the current President and his father. While I believe they are often wrong on the issues (too supportive of Big Government) I can't deny the decency and integrity they brought to the White House. Changing parties (from GOP to Libertarian) hasn't and won't diminish my respect for them as patriots and good people.
Yup, we actually had a few on the ballot here. Good sign IMO.
EBUCK
It is the militaries job to protect our borders, that is what we pay them for. How can anyone justify a what, 1 trillion dollar defense budget, without having our borders protected?
I disagree; defending your private property is one thing but militarizing the border to keep people from coming here is wrong. Living in San Diego I can tell you our military is perfectly capable of defending us without having to be on the border.
To your second point no one can justify the trillion dollar defense budget because it's unconstitutional. It's really an OFFENSE budget and that's where both parties have failed us. We should have deployed SDI years ago instead of wasting money on foreign adventures not authorized by our Constitution.
Is not the territory of the United States in essence our private property? If not, who does it belong to..the people of the world? And what of people that personally own property on the border...don't we have an obligation to protect their property rights?
EBUCK
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