Ten Reasons to Vote for Libertarians

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[winner45]

Ten Reasons to Vote for Libertarians

....even if you don’t like them!

1..Libertarians understand that freedom requires responsibility. Freedom can be denied to those who harm others or the property of others.

2..Libertarians ALWAYS vote against tax increases and ALWAYS vote for freedom.

3..Libertarians understand that freedom and equality go hand in hand. Your freedom to live as you please is given to you by the same authority which gives freedom to the persons who may have different lifestyles. You have to give them their freedom to do that to obtain your freedom.

4..Your freedom is not given by the Constitution. It is given from a higher power. Libertarians understand that the Constitution merely sets it down on paper.

5..Libertarians understand that God is of libertarian spirit. He gave humanity free will. He could have just as easily made humanity incapable of free choice. It is kind of arrogant for government to deny the freedom that God Himself has given. When the Israelites wanted a king, God was offended. Laws by man are petty and inferior.

6..If you are unhappy with both Democrats and Republicans, register your unhappiness with a vote for a Libertarian. If a Libertarian got 30% of the vote, it would scare the pants off of the ruling class. They would become more receptive to reason.

7..Libertarians understand that a good society is built upon hard working individuals doing their best in a responsible way. It seems that the ruling parties think that a good society is built upon government group efforts wherein people work (shirk) together.

8..Libertarians understand that the Bill of Rights is as relevant and crucially important today as it was over 200 years ago. Libertarians even think that our government should start observing it once more.

9..Libertarians realize that freedom has many limitations. The winners of elections do not have the right to lord the will of the majority over the rights of the minorities.

10..Libertarians are the only political people that believe that 98% of our citizens are morally good enough and intelligent enough to run their own lives. Basic laws are there to protect us from the other 2%.

[Teacher317]

What's the matter ... I'm not being sensitive enough for you? You want me to temper my remarks? Piss off. I don't submit to censorship. Or is that part of the new Libertarian platform?

I could care less about your sensitivity. You, personally, and your rude comments, are driving away potential GOP votes. See post 255. Please stop. Jim Robinson probably wouldn't appreciate you chasing away GOP votes on his forum just 4 days vefore the election.

[BUSHdude2000]

No flame -- just an observation. One reason NOT to vote Libertarian:

1. You've thrown away your vote on a candidate who will never be elected.

You hit the nail on the head right off the bat. No limpertarian has been elected to anything. These limps want to talk about legalizing drugs and as Ann Coulter said, they just want to keep blaming both sides for everything else.

[Paulus Invictus]

#11 A vote for Liberoids is a sure vote for Dumocraps. In other words, Liberoids are hopeless losers too!

[Bush2000]

You, personally, and your rude comments, are driving away potential GOP votes.

Actually, you've got that backwards. Any of you Libertarian morons who vote for your hopeless candidates on election day might as well vote for Democrats.

[Mr. Mojo]

Typos don't warrant an English lesson.

[ErnBatavia]

All Darth did was say he was (quite foolishly) going to vote against Elizabeth Dole, and for Erskine Bowles. JimRob put him in the hole!

[ChadGore]

"Thou shalt not speak ill of a fellow Republican." -- Reagans law.

[ChuteTheMall GawdSortaMount]

Libertarians are welcome to present their ideas in the primaries, but no rational DemonRat fighter would ever throw away a valuable vote in a real election on any Libertarian candidate.

Ignore the Libertarians' bombastic rhetoric and look at their record and their performance, which is zilch. Nothing but failures, everywhere.

OK, read their platforms; 1992,96,'00. Advocating such dangerous concepts as open borders, any terrorist can bring in any weapons or diseases, it's a free world.

Don't even get me started exposing the Libertarian platforms advocating child prostitution and numerous other social ills. Let them rattle RINO cages during primaries, but never vote against any RINO if a DemonRat is running.

[MileHi]

DITTO your post. I don't agree with all of big "L" dogma, but the Republicans are losing me after being faithful for 20 some years. Bottom line, I want FedGov to leave me the hell alone.

[demosthenes the elder]

damn, got a contact high offa that ditty.

[dark_lord]

All Darth did was say he was (quite foolishly) going to vote against Elizabeth Dole, and for Erskine Bowles. JimRob put him in the hole!

How interesting. Hmmm.....

[demosthenes the elder]

"I was going to vote for republicans on tuesday, but I'm not going to now. You have revealed yourselves as little more than high-schoolers at a pep rally, desperate to be on the team that wins. I have passed by that juvenile attitude - which saddens me to see that otherwise good conservatives have become no better than democrats in this regard."

That's interesting, spodbox, considering that you chose not to debate, discuss, or refute the comments I made in reply #51. I believe that post made a great deal of sense, and gave a good rationale for constitutional constructionists to vote for the Republicans in this upcoming election.

[Long Cut]

THERE IS A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN INTENTIONS AND RESULTS!!! I happen to agree with a large number of "Libertarian" tenets. Were I to vote Libertarian, however, the RESULT would be the nullification of a Republican vote which translates into a net GAIN of one vote for a Dim. After all we've seen of the modern Democrat party since, oh, about 1963 or so; and PARTICULARLY in these past two elections, giving a Dim a vote, through any means at all, is simply too revolting a thought.

Intentions vs. results, folks. Ultimately, we are judged on the latter, not the former. We may intend to vote our conscience, strike a blow for liberty and the Constitution, etc., but if the result, via a Dim victory, is actually a dilution of those worthy goals, then we have been made fools of.

Forget not, once in power the Dims will be the ones writing laws on taxes, spending, immigration, gun control, and trade. It will be THEY who select for us the judges, administrators, attorneys general, top military officers, regulators, and bureaucrats. 'Tis THEY who will write tort law and set education policy.

If the Republicans have been seemingly too eager to compromise with the Dims of late, those who, by their "principled" votes sent more Dims to Washington are partly to blame...compromise would NOT be as necessary with a greater Republican majority. You who complain about "weak-spined" Republicans are, unfortunately, partly to blame.

Think there's no difference? Really? Okay, I'll play your game. Did ANY Republicans accompany the Maggot Boys, Bonior and McDermott, to Baghdad to denounce their own country on the soil of an enemy? Is it Republicans who refuse to consider for confirmation any judges with Conservative, Constitutionalist leanings? Do Republicans wish to eliminate the tax cuts recently passed, or make them permanent? Is it the Republicans who conducted the shamelessly disgusting campaign rally upon a corpse this week? Was it the Republicans who, for 8 years (10 now!) steadfastly defended and protected one of the most apalling excuses for a President our country has ever been saddled with (and who would not have been elected without the interference of a third party, BTW). Do Republicans today hold out their worst failures from past years as "elder statesmen", worthy of Senate terms? Of all the (almost hourly) reports of electioneering shenanigans, have ANY touched a Republican? And lastly (and I could go on, oh yes, my brothers, I could) were any Republicans ever evident marching with those skinwasters at anti-war protests, past AND present?

Anyone who claims not to see a "dime's worth of difference" here doesn't have eyesight worth a penny.

Let's get the RATS out, once and for all. Once that high and worthy cause is done, we can turn our attention to the pursuit of liberty as enshrined in the Constitution. Such a pursuit, however, cannot take place whilst a Donkey blocks the road and refuses to budge.

An America where the two major parties are Libertarian and Republican would be wondrous indeed. First, however, a whole other party, one with a great deal of power still, must be crushed. Together, we all can do so. Apart, we can only wear its chains.

[dark_lord]

Well, I did a search by poster on Darth...its not like DU where they ban someone on a single comment. Darth was rather prolific. He must have a few hundred posts out there. And repeatedly posting that he prefers the Democratic candidate in multiple posts directly to Jim....

[demosthenes the elder]

that was a pretty solid post.

[demosthenes the elder]

you keep saying that. from what I have seen, it is not so. your constant reiteration of what is not true is exceedingly tiresome.

[MileHi]

T317, I have been a registered R for 20 some years."Big Tent " Repubs like B2K have made me reconsider that association. The insults because one might pause at voting for a republican like, oh, Jeffords or McCain are stunning. That sort of blind "just following orders" lockstep does not smell of freedom, but rather herd mentality.

B2K, you are winning converts left and right. You should work for the RNC, moron. When folks do defect to third parties, thank yourself and others of your ilk. What an insufferable ass.

[TBP]

Again, as I said befoe, I am not a libertarian, although I have voted for some of their candidates from time to time.

I ahve also voted for Republican candidates when they were the kind of people who would move the ball in our direction. Unfortunately, as my list of legislation on which we've been abandoned shows, that is not always, or even often, the case. I do not see any good reason to vote for Democrats just because they dress up as Republicans. How does that help to advance conservative principles?

And when you do that, the Republicans think that what they are doing is acceptable and they don't hve to come any farther in oru direction because conservatives are already in their pockets. They treat us the way that Democrats treat blacks and for the same reasons.

The way to break that is to buck the GOP when it gives you just more liberals, which is increasingly often these days. As I said, with Republican rule, the government still gets bigger, more expensive, and more intrusive. is that what we want? That is not any kind of conservatism I recognize.

If we would work hard to see that truly conservative Republicans win but at the same time help ensure the defeat of RINOs who simply betray our principles, eventually even the pig-headed numbskulls in charge of The Stupid Party would be forced to move closer to the conservative principles we expect from them. Wouldn't that be a good thing? It won't happen s long as conservatives keep electing me-too Republicans, who are nothing more than pale imitations of Democrats.

[Bush2000]

B2K, you are winning converts left and right. You should work for the RNC, moron.

Oh, the pain, the pain. So much for the high road, eh?

[redrock]

"(7) Libertarians are WEAK in foreign policy - they'd coddle all the dictatorships and evil regimes out there with "free trade."

Sort of like what the United States did with that one guy in the mid-east.....Saddam Hussien....

redrock