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Drug laws won't be on the fall ballot, but tobacco money will
Detroit Free Press ^
| September 11, 2002
| DAWSON BELL
Posted on 09/11/2002 4:55:57 AM PDT by VA Advogado
Edited on 05/07/2004 7:12:39 PM PDT by Jim Robinson.
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A carefully planned and well-financed campaign to overhaul Michigan's drug laws crashed Tuesday, as the state Supreme Court declined to place the issue before voters in November.
Without comment, the court upheld decisions issued last week by the Court of Appeals and a state elections panel to keep the drug question off the ballot.
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To: Hemingway's Ghost
Oh yeah let's not forget the must have item for any dope smoking hippie, a psychedelic poster of Che Guevera(Castro's left hand man).
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posted on
09/11/2002 6:22:50 AM PDT
by
Dane
To: Kevin Curry
If you really think legalizing dope will eliminate ONE government job, Actually, you may have a point there. The way the Dimocrats and Repuglicans do things, it'd just form another branch of government to monitor such things. After all, that's what they did after Alcohol Prohibition was lifted. With the ending of the Cold War, now we have the Department of Homeland Defense. No telling where all those government workers would go. IRS, half the FBI, BATF, DEA. They wouldn't have much of a clue on how to go about getting a productive job. Maybe individual communities could get together and hire them to go through the local dump looking for recyclable materials. Sounds like a worthwhile goal for them.
Even more reason to vote Libertarian.
To: VA Advogado
A court stopping a ballot initiative is almost always a bad thing.
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posted on
09/11/2002 6:24:44 AM PDT
by
Sloth
To: VA Advogado
The only thing that works is a cement cell and steel bars.
Yeah it works so good right now. Drug useage is on the rise. throw them in Jail......
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posted on
09/11/2002 6:25:10 AM PDT
by
vin-one
To: Dane
I guess you failed to see the subtlety of my post. You wrote: "And the Libertarians will screech saying that drug validation is not a leftist issue when the proof is in the pudding or should I say bong."
And you also seemed to agree with me that Stalin, Mao, and Ho were leftists.
Read up on how Stalin, Mao, and Ho delt with drug use in their respective leftist states and then get back to us if you still think drug legalization is a "leftist" issue.
To: Hemingway's Ghost
It is silly to try to suggest that because Hitler was against drug use, those of us who oppose legalization are in league with despots...But to play the game, Jimi Hendrix, John Entwisle, Janice Joplin, and a number of other rock stars were for legalization....oh but they can't vote on the issue...they are DEAD...drugs killed them.
To: Hemingway's Ghost
Today's socialists--George Soros et al--are more clever. They see that the creation of doper-victim voter phaylanx will help them undermine western values and strengthen the socialist nanny state. It's worked in the Netherlands and it's working in Gay Davis's California.
There is reality, and there is your bong-inspired facsmile thereof. The medicinal marijuana grifters can tell the difference between the two and are very happy if you cannot.
To: Impeach the Boy
They aren't using up all those medicare resources that Kevin keeps harping about?
Sounds like they paid a high price for their stupidity. It was their decision to play the game. It was their bad luck to come up "snake-eyes". If people were not so protected from the consequences of thier actions, more people might think twice.
To: Jack-A-Roe
Excellent day for drug dealers and cartels. Drugs stay illegal, profits stay robust.
Look at the rest of the good effects
We can stimulate the economy by building more jails
Hell of the sellers are evil then the users must be too( ain't that the argument against Torrecilli He took the bribe so he is as bad as the briber
Throw about 10,000,000 more people in jail
The more the merrier
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posted on
09/11/2002 6:29:15 AM PDT
by
uncbob
To: Hemingway's Ghost
Read up on how Stalin, Mao, and Ho delt with drug use in their respective leftist states and then get back to us if you still think drug legalization is a "leftist" issue OK I will say this very slowly, now think, who do you think would have had a poster of Stalin, Mao, or Ho Chi Minh in their dorm rooms the 60's, Hillary(George Soros's good friend and the sugar daddy of the pro-drug movement) or George W. Bush?
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posted on
09/11/2002 6:29:17 AM PDT
by
Dane
To: Impeach the Boy
oh but they can't vote on the issue...they are DEAD...drugs killed them.
And people don't kill people, guns kill people. Thus, we should ban all guns.
Drugs didn't kill these people, their irresponsible use of drugs did. They could have easily died from alcohol poisoning or pefscription drug abuse. Why are you trying to absolve people from the their share of the blame by blaming OBJECTS instead of people?
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posted on
09/11/2002 6:30:08 AM PDT
by
WyldKard
To: Impeach the Boy
It is silly to try to suggest that because Hitler was against drug use, those of us who oppose legalization are in league with despots... BINGO, WE HAVE A WINNER.
It is equally as silly to try to suggest that because SOROS or any other god-damn socialist on the planet is for drug legalization, those of us who oppose the War on Drugs are in league with SOCIALISTS.
Do you guys flippin' get it yet?!?!?!?
To: Impeach the Boy
It is silly to try to suggest that because Hitler was against drug use, . . .Hitler was a heavily addicted drug abuser, as were many of is top lieutenants (e.g., Georing, who was addicted to opiates). The Nazis experimented in hallucinogens including psilocybin, and the Wehrmacht itself depeneded on ampthetamines almost as much as it did diesel fuel.
Hitler looooooooved drugs. Had he lived in America today, he would been a card-carrying libertarian.
To: Kevin Curry
As has been pointed out before, Hitler was addicted BY HIS PHYSICIAN! Recreational usage wasn't part of the equation.
Moron.
To: WyldKard
And people don't kill people, guns kill people. Thus, we should ban all guns. The old all inanimate objects are created equal crap again.
Firearms help protect innocent life and property, how many lives have a joint, crack pipe, or used heroin needle saved?
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posted on
09/11/2002 6:32:24 AM PDT
by
Dane
To: WyldKard
With even just pot legalized, most of the wind would be taken out of the sails of groups like the DEA. Thats 700,000 people a year not being arrested for simple possession. It may not close jails, but it will fill those extra cells up with murders, rapists and thieves. Just think if we legalized rape and murder too we can close our prisons and the crime rate will be darn near zero. Do a couple more lines and let's see what other mind-expanding ideas you come up with.
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posted on
09/11/2002 6:32:49 AM PDT
by
Olydawg
To: wita
will bring instant condemnation through the use of that tired old accusation of "druggie".
99% of who slosh down liquid drugs and lie to themseles by saying they aren't Druggies
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posted on
09/11/2002 6:33:17 AM PDT
by
uncbob
To: uncbob
Throw about 10,000,000 more people in jail Nah. let's throw them into government-subsidized housing instead, pay them supplemental socal security, and provide them with dope for life.
If the Dutch can do it, so can we. Soros is betting on it.
To: Olydawg
so in your twisted little brain you equate rape and murder (which have victims, mind you) with drug use (which has no victim)? Are you really saying they're one and the same?
To: VA Advogado
You certainly do have a wrong headed view of who the "good guts" are.
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posted on
09/11/2002 6:34:35 AM PDT
by
thepitts
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