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To: LiteKeeper
But the assumption in evolutionary theory is that the original life form "just happened"

Evolutionary theory contains no attempt at explaining the ultimate origins of life. You are either misinformed or you are lying. Abiogenesis is not a part of evolution, it is a completely seperate matter.
217 posted on 08/28/2002 1:07:56 PM PDT by Dimensio
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To: Dimensio
Good News For The Day

‘The truth will set you free.’ (John 8:32)

"God's dismissal in the 19th century, and the humiliation of truth in the 2oth, was supposed to set the world free."

"The experiment has been under way for some time now, and it is fair to ask, what are the... results---so far?"

"The Nazi experience in Germany provides a case study. There, a government and a society were organized on the principle of God's non-existence. Did liberation come to pass? On the wall of one of the death camps there is a plaque. It preserves the language of one of Hitler's speeches. The plaque overlooks large mounds of human hair, piles of personal effects; shoes, spectacles. The plaque reads: "I freed Germany from the degrading fallacy of conscience and morality. We will train people capable of violence-imperious, relentless, cruel. . ."

"Those sentiments were nurtured on the same continent that gave the world the reformation. Which was more liberating? If someone came today and said: "I am the truth," we would not take him seriously. But when Jesus says it, we are tempted to let him get away with it. If he is mad, it is a beautiful madness; such an attractive insanity. Let us not be ashamed to offer Christ to the world."

‘The truth will set you free.’ (John 8:32)

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Good News For The Day

‘I am the truth. . ..’(John 14:6)

For most of time, men and women have assumed that the truth was there to be found out. This began to change in the 19th century and the change gathered pace in the 20th. As people began to question the existence of God, it became obvious to some, that the existence of truth requires the existence of God. With God dismissed, it became impossible to conceive of truth in any absolute sense. This has resulted in the humiliation of truth. Truth is now whatever you would like it to be.

Truth's demise has filtered down through the great centers of learning, the arts, and on into streets and homes. Everything is possible with truth gone. Everything is permissible. Musicians make music that doesn't sound musical. Painters paint pictures that are incomprehensible to normal folk. Playwrights write plays that are nonsense, and architects design buildings that no one can understand. All this is put forward as legitimate, but what does it all mean?

No matter how much... popular culture---is encouraged to believe in the relativity of truth, no one can build a decent life on such a notion.

Inevitably proponents of freedom from God, and from absolute truth, are obliged to reach outside of their own system, and borrow something from theism in order to make their lives work. The person who believes that everything is valid, will soon find that he is condemned to meaninglessness. Christ is a standing offer of escape from such a hell as this To believe that truth is like Christ, is salvation indeed.

219 posted on 08/28/2002 1:11:38 PM PDT by f.Christian
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To: Dimensio
Evolutionary theory contains no attempt at explaining the ultimate origins of life. You are either misinformed or you are lying. Abiogenesis is not a part of evolution, it is a completely seperate matter.

Evolution has dozens of theories on the ultimate origin of life. If it doesn't even explain that what good is it?

220 posted on 08/28/2002 1:12:36 PM PDT by far sider
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To: Dimensio
Sure it does...and that is why evolution is considered a philosophical position, not a scientific one. It uses presuppositions to arrive at a starting point. From there the theory is developed. I am questioning the philosophical presupppositions, without which you have no theory. Evolution does not just start, there is a starting point. The question that is being asked is, what is that starting point?
222 posted on 08/28/2002 1:13:31 PM PDT by LiteKeeper
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To: Dimensio
Abiogenesis is not a part of evolution, it is a completely seperate matter.

Abiogenisis is not part of evolution because Darwin knew he would be laughed at for even proposing it. He also knew that he would immediately be marked as an atheist if he did. You will have a really tough time finding a Christian that believes abiogenesis is possible and an equally hard time to find an atheist that does not believe in abiogenesis.

375 posted on 08/28/2002 7:01:55 PM PDT by gore3000
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