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To: BADJOE
Just asserting it doesn't make it so, Joe. I repeat from above:
Therefore Caplan's case against the Historical Argument also fails - "anarcho-capitalism" is a misnomer because anarchism has always, in all its forms, opposed capitalism. Denying and re-writing history is hardly a means of refuting the historical argument.

Caplan ends by stating:

"Let us designate anarchism (1) anarchism as you define it. Let us designate anarchism (2) anarchism as I and the American Heritage College Dictionary define it. This is a FAQ about anarchism (2)."

Note that here we see again how the dictionary is a very poor foundation upon to base an argument. Again using Webster's Ninth New Collegiate Dictionary, we find under "anarchist" - "one who rebels against any authority, established order, or ruling power." This definition is very close to that which "traditional" anarchists have - which is the basis for our own opposition to the notion that anarchism is merely rebellion against State authority.

Clearly this definition is at odds with Caplan's own view; is Webster's then wrong, and Caplan's view right? Which view is backed by the theory and history of the movement? Surely that should be the basis of who is part of the anarchist tradition and movement and who is not? Rather than do this, Caplan and other "anarcho"-capitalists rush to the dictionary (well, those that do not define anarchy as "disorder"). This is for a reason as anarchism as a political movement as always been explicitly anti-capitalist and so the term "anarcho"-capitalism is an oxymoron.

What Caplan fails to even comprehend is that his choices are false. Anarchism can be designated in two ways:

(1). Anarchism as you define it
(2). Anarchism as the anarchist movement defines it and finds expression in the theories developed by that movement.

Caplan chooses anarchism (1) and so denies the whole history of the anarchist movement. Anarchism is not a word, it is a political theory with a long history which dictionaries cannot cover. Therefore any attempt to define anarchism by such means is deeply flawed and ultimately fails.

That Caplan's position is ultimately false can be seen from the "anarcho"-capitalists themselves. In many dictionaries anarchy is defined as "disorder," "a state of lawlessness" and so on. Strangely enough, no "anarcho"-capitalist ever uses these dictionary definitions of "anarchy"! Thus appeals to dictionaries are just as much a case of defining anarchism as you desire as not using dictionaries. Far better to look at the history and traditions of the anarchist movement itself, seek out its common features and apply those as criteria to those seeking to include themselves in the movement. As can be seen, "anarcho"-capitalism fails this test and, therefore, are not part of the anarchist movement. Far better for us all if they pick a new label to call themselves rather than steal our name.

Although most anarchists disagree on many things, the denial of its history is not one of them.

And regardless of how you define it, what you are advocating is no different than what Bill White pushes for on his website. 9
52 posted on 06/28/2002 4:12:15 PM PDT by Admin Moderator
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To: Admin Moderator
BS.

Basically, Anarchy, deriving from the greek "an-arche" (pronounced
an-ar-kay) means no foundation/principle/rule. Marxism and socialism
and anarchy are not the same at all, especially philosophically.

Socialism is the governmental control of what we would consider to be
private business. Hence: the government owns the means of production.

Marxism is a detailed "theory" of dialectical materialism and the
dialectic of negation and alienation as it systematically instantiates
itself in reality (the material world, hence dialectical materialism.)
Marx claims that there is an inherent tension between owners and workers
(workers are alienated from their product, nature, and their labor)
culminating in a battle where the universal class consciousness is
triumphant, ie the workers win, no ownership etc. It is ridiculous to
assert that anarchy, meaning rule of nothing is equivalent to a complex
theory of sublation and interaction between historical forces that
govern world history. These things are diametrically opposed. Either
there is no order in the world, a consequence of the anarchist position,
or there is a theory of world history, what Marx advances. So whoever is
trying to claim that anarchy "no ruler" is the same as having the
community rule "communism/marxism" has cartoon version of these
theories.

One needn't even reference Bakhunin in Kropotkin to discuss this unless
ones ones ideas were so fragile and weak (or their penis was so small)
that they needed to drop some names.

Again very simple here: either the community rules (communism) or
nothing rules (anarchy)
54 posted on 06/28/2002 4:18:38 PM PDT by BADJOE
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