[BADJOE]

BS.

Basically, Anarchy, deriving from the greek "an-arche" (pronounced
an-ar-kay) means no foundation/principle/rule. Marxism and socialism
and anarchy are not the same at all, especially philosophically.

Socialism is the governmental control of what we would consider to be
private business. Hence: the government owns the means of production.

Marxism is a detailed "theory" of dialectical materialism and the
dialectic of negation and alienation as it systematically instantiates
itself in reality (the material world, hence dialectical materialism.)
Marx claims that there is an inherent tension between owners and workers
(workers are alienated from their product, nature, and their labor)
culminating in a battle where the universal class consciousness is
triumphant, ie the workers win, no ownership etc. It is ridiculous to
assert that anarchy, meaning rule of nothing is equivalent to a complex
theory of sublation and interaction between historical forces that
govern world history. These things are diametrically opposed. Either
there is no order in the world, a consequence of the anarchist position,
or there is a theory of world history, what Marx advances. So whoever is
trying to claim that anarchy "no ruler" is the same as having the
community rule "communism/marxism" has cartoon version of these
theories.

One needn't even reference Bakhunin in Kropotkin to discuss this unless
ones ones ideas were so fragile and weak (or their penis was so small)
that they needed to drop some names.

Again very simple here: either the community rules (communism) or
nothing rules (anarchy)

[Admin Moderator]

One needn't even reference Bakhunin in Kropotkin to discuss this unless ones ones ideas were so fragile and weak (or their penis was so small) that they needed to drop some names.

One could make the same argument about someone who insists on using penis size as some form of intellectual measurement.

You may now understand why I'll take positions way out of the mainstream.

If you think your positions are way out of the mainstream, perhaps you should get out into the mainstream more often.

I must admit that I have been blown away by your statements today Joe. Wow. I had no idea. We're not fighting for the same things at all. In fact, we're in political opposition of each other, not as different types of conservatives, but as a person on the Right opposed to a person on the Left.

You can use any definition of anarchy you choose because none of them are acceptable to me.

Magnum

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