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To: jlogajan
And just who is doing the "apportioning"?

Libertarians. Read your Burke for God's sake, the second part of that goes - "Men of intemperate minds cannot be free, their passions form their fetters". In other words, people apportion liberty unto themselves.

Of course with legalisation and an increase of consumption of illegal narcotics, you lot would create every leftie's wet dream, a class of people who cannot take care of themselves. They'll be arguing for a methodone in schools programme and retirement homes for junkies. Don't laugh. The retirement home actually exists in the Netherlands.

Ivan

400 posted on 06/10/2002 11:59:45 PM PDT by MadIvan
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To: MadIvan
"And just who is doing the "apportioning"?"

people apportion liberty unto themselves.

You smuggle a lot of socialistic baggage in that.

I mean, if you just mean individuals decided their own personal level of freedom, well, that would be anarchy.

So what you are really meaning, I suspect, is that all other people determine what level of freedom you have.

So we can list the two categories:
1.) Individual self-determines is liberty
2.) Other people determine individual's liberty

Merely saying that "the people determine their own liberty" does not really narrow what you mean. It includes everything from dictatorships, socialistic states, to individual anarchy.

You need to be more precise with your language and with your justifications. Broad definitions like that leave all sorts of room for concept smuggling.

403 posted on 06/11/2002 6:51:45 AM PDT by jlogajan
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