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Islam’s Hatred of the Clitoris
FrontPage Magazine ^ | Jamie Glazov

Posted on 10/18/2001 9:48:56 PM PDT by VinnyTex

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To: FR_addict
Here's documentation from the same site on which countries allow FGM.

http://www.fgmnetwork.org/intro/world.html
541 posted on 07/21/2002 12:35:38 PM PDT by FR_addict
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To: ppaul
How about comparing apples with apples will ya? So some nurse(probably your wife or other relative) in a nursing home is inconvenienced because an older man can not keep himself as clean and she has to smell him. Well, I'd better rethink now my son getting circed, I wouldn't want some nurse 70 years from now being offended by his inability to maintain his personal hygiene anymore*shaking head*. Good grief, her complaint belongs with the aids that should be assisting older men in thier hygiene not with the fact that they are uncircumcised. Not to mention the probably numberous medications coupled with chronic and probably terminal illnesses that probably interfere with the natural hormonal process that can contribute to odor not only in men, but female mucus as well. Your agruments and others lend credibility to these African women who say they do this because it's cleaner. After all when you've lopped off all those mucus membranes, it probably smells cleaner in both sexes right? Particularly when they are old and frail, in ill health, probably not at the level of hygiene they should be and taken any number of medications that can change the substance of thier mucos.
If you really want to talk let's talk about two men in good health and say mid age. That to me would be a better comparison. I do have to chuckle at how you some are horrified by this practice(and yes I think there is a difference between them), but then make the same arguments as these third world hags as to why boys here should have circumcision done.
542 posted on 07/21/2002 12:50:45 PM PDT by glory
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To: FR_addict
It maynot be common in Afghanista, but here's list of abuses against women in Afghanistan under the Taliban:

http://rawa.org
Here's a list of some of the other Moslem countries that practice FGM:

http://www.fgmnetwork.org/intro/world.html

ARABIAN PENINSULA:
BAHRAIN
DEMOCRATIC YEMEN (ADEN)
OMAN
UNITED ARAB EMIRATES: Nagd, Kuwet, Muntafir, Bani, Tamin, Sammar,
Mahra, Kara, Sahara, Bautahar, Boni Atije, Agarnem, Adwan,
Southern part of Peninsula and persian Gulf area*.

ASIA: (Sunna Circumcision: cut of part of clitoris).
INDONESIA: Moslem population of Java*.
MALAYSIA: Malays, Moslem population.
543 posted on 07/21/2002 12:53:55 PM PDT by FR_addict
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To: Texas Gal
I'll give you another hint.

Groucho? Chico? Harpo?.....Gummo?????

544 posted on 07/21/2002 1:04:10 PM PDT by PJ-Comix
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To: A. Pole
I agree with you A. Pole, hence my son is intact.
545 posted on 07/21/2002 1:21:45 PM PDT by glory
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To: glory
I agree with you A. Pole, hence my son is intact.

Perhaps, but some day in the future.....the Evil Circs WILL ATTACK!!!

546 posted on 07/21/2002 1:28:30 PM PDT by PJ-Comix
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To: mamelukesabre
All men need to be circumsized sooner or later.
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You can choose to endure the hardship or you can choose to have the nuisance removed via surgery.

WHAT?!! Why is this problem UNKNOWN in all Christian countries (with the exception of USA)?

I was circumsized as birth.

So how can you know?

547 posted on 07/21/2002 1:34:59 PM PDT by A. Pole
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To: A. Pole
You have a reading comprehension problem. Re-read my post and then if you still have trouble, let me know and I will explain it to you.
548 posted on 07/21/2002 1:49:08 PM PDT by mamelukesabre
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To: Texas Gal
Ya know, it makes me wanna visit that sick man's grave.
549 posted on 07/21/2002 1:56:28 PM PDT by Terriergal
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To: mamelukesabre
Re-read my post and then if you still have trouble, let me know

I am VERY VERY sorry. I opened my window in the way that I missed the introduction. I thought that this stupid statement was yours. I am sorry.

550 posted on 07/21/2002 1:57:04 PM PDT by A. Pole
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To: VinnyTex
In achieving this feat on all women, you will become able to ruthlessly dominate them

That should have been phrased "you BELIEVE you will be able to ruthlessly dominate them."

Sexual pleasure has very little to do with whether or not a woman will allow herself to be dominated.

551 posted on 07/21/2002 1:58:19 PM PDT by Terriergal
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To: VinnyTex
The child is pinned down by several women, while one of them attacks.

Yeah I saw a documentary on this at one time. Heartbreaking... absolutely horrifying.

552 posted on 07/21/2002 2:00:49 PM PDT by Terriergal
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To: ppaul
mothers pushing their young sons to grow up to be martyrs for the One True Religion

Heck if they're not getting any pleasure from sex, and the men have this kind of attitude toward women, maybe these moms are doing their society a favor.

(Speaking rhetorically of course.)

553 posted on 07/21/2002 2:02:16 PM PDT by Terriergal
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To: VinnyTex
It would also explain why the men are so weird. They have no CLUE what a good mutually satisfying relationship with a woman is like.
554 posted on 07/21/2002 2:02:58 PM PDT by Terriergal
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To: A. Pole
Well, no harm done i guess.

But I don't know that his comment was so stupid. It makes sense to me. As people age, all the thin, delicate skin regions tend to stretch and sag(for some, but not all people).

Another example would be the eyelids and skin around the eyes. On many elderly people, this skin becomes very stretched and sags quite a bit. Some choose surgery to remove the excess skin. It makes sense to me that the thin delicate skin on the male organ would undergo a similar stretching. Especially the foreskin.
555 posted on 07/21/2002 2:10:30 PM PDT by mamelukesabre
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To: glory
The last 1/2" of the underside on the foreskin (especially the tissue BEYOND the Frenulum) is the portion of the Penis which is MOST sensitive to sexual stimulation.

This is part of the tissue ALWAYS removed by "Circumcision!"

HHHMMMNNNNN???!

"But It's Just a Harmless Procedure performed for Religious & Hygeine purposes!"

RIGHT!

Doc

556 posted on 07/21/2002 6:26:48 PM PDT by Doc On The Bay
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To: Ed_in_LA
One of the few things I agree with feminists on.

557 posted on 07/21/2002 7:00:29 PM PDT by Brytani
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To: CarolAnn
Her name is Waris Derie and she's spoken quite loudly about the mutilation she underwent and works to stop the practice world wide.
558 posted on 07/21/2002 7:08:03 PM PDT by Brytani
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To: glory
Sorry y'all...
If you really want to talk let's talk about two men in good health and say mid age. That to me would be a better comparison.

Okay, dude.
Females with their clits intact won't crust up with smegma after going one day without a shower.
A guy with an uncircumcised penis will.
Eeewwwwwww.


559 posted on 07/21/2002 11:48:51 PM PDT by ppaul
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To: ppaul
Females with their clits intact won't crust up with smegma after going one day without a shower.

A guy with an uncircumcised penis will.

You clearly don't know what you are talking about. Argument from ignorence.

Every psycologically normal male considers his 'unit' perfect. Perhaps just a little on the small side ;-)

As to which is objectivly better only women who have had sex with both (and their views are filterd by who they wound up married to) or men who were circumcised as adults have seen both sides of the fence.

Mr Natural is perfect just the way he is.

560 posted on 07/22/2002 1:01:06 AM PDT by Dinsdale
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