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Islam’s Hatred of the Clitoris
FrontPage Magazine ^ | Jamie Glazov

Posted on 10/18/2001 9:48:56 PM PDT by VinnyTex

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To: zoyd
In fact, I have read of a few young men who are coming of age, and who were NOT circumcised, and are choosing to undergo circumcision.

Seems that their sexual partners aren't interested in oral sex. Not as clean.

The topic of circumcision regularly comes up on another message board I frequent, and it's been interesting reading the pros and cons.

321 posted on 10/19/2001 5:00:56 PM PDT by joathome
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To: PJ-Comix
With our first boy, we persuaded our Ob/Gyn doctor to circumcise on the eighth day, the norm for hospitals at that time being the third day. We were able to show research that indicated that the levels of anti-coagulants and pain suppressors normally peaked on day eight, and she agreed. Our son, never given to suppressing his emotions, fussed slightly at the [cold] plastic pelvic restraint used, but didn't seem to notice the cut, which was almost bloodless. The next two boys had a similar experience, none of them remember it, and we still have a very good relationship!

The doctor was impressed by the scientific backing behind what I consider to be both a spiritual covenant, as well as being a health benefit. She became an advocate of 8th day circumcision, and, with our permission, invited other staff to witness. The boys are probably glad not to remember this!

And to the oldest, who posts here, I'll say, Son, I love you, I did it for you, and it hurt me more than it seemed to hurt you!

Now, as for my daughter, I left perfection alone.

322 posted on 10/19/2001 5:01:40 PM PDT by Skalven
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To: Skalven
The boys are probably glad not to remember this!

And even happier that they won't have to get circumcized at adulthood when it would really be painful.

323 posted on 10/19/2001 5:04:23 PM PDT by PJ-Comix
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To: PJ-Comix
A part of Old Testament warfare, I seem to remember.
324 posted on 10/19/2001 5:06:38 PM PDT by Skalven
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To: Skalven
Refreshing memory .... Genesis 34:25

" Now it came to pass on the third day, when they were in pain, that two of the sons of Jacob, Simeon and Levi, Dinah's brothers, each took his sword and came boldly upon the city and killed all the males."

325 posted on 10/19/2001 5:15:59 PM PDT by Skalven
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To: PJ-Comix
or 'lotta bottom'?
326 posted on 10/19/2001 5:18:24 PM PDT by rockfish59
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To: Aurelius
in the late 19th century, as you can easily verify...

But not so easy that you would provide us with any sort of documentation, eh?

We aren't as removed from the Talibans as a lot of you would like to think.

I'm so tired of hearing of this type of bunk. Sell your anti-American tripe on some other server.

327 posted on 10/19/2001 5:24:20 PM PDT by Egg
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To: PJ-Comix
   The only reason for an adult male to ever be circumcised would be congenital defects, or slovenly grooming habits. There is no medically-sound basis for performing this procedure on an otherwise healthy male.
328 posted on 10/19/2001 5:29:46 PM PDT by Le-Roy
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To: kaylar
American Academy of Pediatrics policy statement on circumcision
329 posted on 10/19/2001 5:38:03 PM PDT by briant
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To: PJ-Comix
So why don't Muslim clerics CONDEMN it? Can't they excommunicate (or whatever they call it) any African Muslim who condones this practice?

Because their is no central religious authority in Islam (like the Papacy). (the first Arab Imperial state killed off virtually all of Mohammed's descendants)

Also, because in Africa-- the clerics are African themselves and probably seek to preserve the animist culture the were raised into.

330 posted on 10/19/2001 5:40:22 PM PDT by Hamza01
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To: briant
I guess I'll include the rest.

More Circumcision stuff.

331 posted on 10/19/2001 5:44:04 PM PDT by briant
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To: stuartcr
Have you ever thought that the reason Islam is so barbaric and cruel is that it is a religion that originated in the nomadic tribal regions of the middle-east, and to those people, this is everyday life?

That may indeed be a factor, it's true that casual cruelty to people and animals doesn't seem to be particularly evil to people who are themselves suffering and struggling just to survive in a harsh environment where hardship and pain are everyday realities. But islam institutionalizes murder and cruelty as an offical intrument for converting the "infidel" world, and for keeping it's believers from accepting "heresies" such as Christianity.

Barbaric treatment of people by primitive, semi-civilized tribesmen is one thing, murder and torture as a deliberate policy of the educated and urbane clergy of an organized religious institution is something else. I believe the unspeakable cruelties practiced by the apostate medieval church were just as Satanically inspired as the cruelties of islam. But the church was reformed during the renaissance, and forced conversion was eventually proscribed both by the reformers and the Catholic church. Meanwhile, islam continues to force conversions and punish "infidels" by murder and persecution just as it has for 1400 years. This is also true to a lesser degree of some other false religions, but islam is the most notorious offender. I believe that all religions except Judaism and Christianity are Satanic in origin, but islam in particular seems to be his preferred instrument for persecution of the church and Judaism.

332 posted on 10/19/2001 6:13:57 PM PDT by epow
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To: VinnyTex
That's one of the most disturbing articles I've ever read.
333 posted on 10/19/2001 6:15:18 PM PDT by znix
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To: CarolAnn
I hope where those hijackers went, they get their 72 virgins - and they all look like Helen Thomas.***

THAT, was priceless. I firmly believe that God has a good sense of humor, this would be the ultimate HELL for any man.

BTW, can someone post the thread where HT was drooling all over DIRTPOTUS at a function recently? I'd like to mail it to my local paper, as evidence that the hideous HT isn't an impartial reporter at all and should be considered, like a bug under a microscope, as the alien parasite that she is.

Thanks.

335 posted on 10/19/2001 6:20:16 PM PDT by The Right Stuff
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To: brigette
Whoa, what you described is completely horrific. I can't believe the mother didn't deck, immediately, both grandparents and mothers.
336 posted on 10/19/2001 6:23:30 PM PDT by The Right Stuff
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To: bluecollarman
Ah, me, sometimes "myth" has a Powerful effect on the "peoples" perception of reality.

I HATE this subject, because it is "Personal, & 'Painful'"!

ONE MORE TIME, I will attempt to educate the "FR Circumcision Buffs!"

What I NOW tell you is the ABSOLUTE TRUTH---Un-Tainted by ANY "socio-political agenda!"

-------The Removal of the Male Foreskin DIRECTLY REDUCES the "Male's" ability to receive Sexual Stimulation, & Substantially reduces the "Male's" ability to appreciate Sexual stimulation to the head of his Penis!!

THERE, --I've Said it!!--!

Male circumcision has a DELETERIOUS EFFECT on male sexual pleasure!!

FIRE AWAY!!

As an "Un-Circumcised Male," I can ABSOLUTELY DEFEND the above postulations!

Doc

337 posted on 10/19/2001 6:46:07 PM PDT by Doc On The Bay
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To: ccmay
We must not be ashamed to say that Western Civilization in general and the United States in particular represent the best society that mankind has yet built. Other cultures, though they may be interesting and even noble in some respects, are inferior. We lead the world because we deserve to lead it. Call it imperialism or the White Man's burden if you like, but it is the truth. ***

Way big dittos, bud. You are correct.

338 posted on 10/19/2001 7:01:58 PM PDT by The Right Stuff
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To: Doc On The Bay
"Male circumcision has a DELETERIOUS EFFECT on male sexual pleasure!!"

Doc, honestly...I don't think I could stand it if felt any better. I will just have to take your word on this one. I did manage to father 5 wonderful children.

339 posted on 10/19/2001 7:11:15 PM PDT by bluecollarman
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To: Ed_in_LA
But, but, what about leftists claiming it's "racist" to impose our western values on these people. Isn't it bigotry to object to this mutilation? It's almost as shameful as our western ideas about vaccinating children against disease. Who are we to think that western civilization is superior?
340 posted on 10/19/2001 7:15:38 PM PDT by boop
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