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The song Steely Dan wrote to mock John Lennon
Far Out Magazine ^ | 3/8/22 | Sam Kemp

Posted on 03/09/2022 12:46:42 PM PST by Bullish

Like many of the biggest groups of the early 1970s, Steely Dan grew up under the shadow of The Beatles. When Donald Fagen and Walter Becker came together in 1971, the pioneering group had already been broken up for more than a year. They may have wondered if they had somehow absorbed the ghost of ‘The Fab Four’ and that it was their responsibility to carry the flame in their absence. Indeed, Fagen and Becker intentionally modelled themselves off The Beatles, choosing to emphasise writing and recording than relentless touring. However, Steely Dan could also be highly critical of The Beatles’ former members at times, as the song ‘Only A Fool Would Say’ makes devastatingly clear.

By the mid-1970s, Steely Dan was less of a band and more of a musical operation with Becker and Fagen in the directorial chair. When the pair formed Steely Dan in 1971, they’d always dreamt of it being a space for them to showcase their “special material”. But for a long time, they were forced to write bubblegum pop tunes for artists like Tommy Roe or The Grass Roots. After Donald Fagen’s panic disorder made it impossible for him to front the group and money problems began making touring unfeasible, they decided to take a turn inwards and make their home in the studio, where they quietly honed their ecstatic brand of jazz-infused rock, relying on a stream of talented session musicians.

As time went by, Steely Dan garnered a huge fanbase and several notable fans, including Paul McCartney. However, Macca’s former bandmate, John Lennon, wasn’t so enamoured. The two artists likely crossed paths during Lennon’s time in New York, where Steely Dan had been based since their inception, but it’s unlikely they ever became particularly close. Not least because Steely Dan wrote a song mocking Lennon’s 1971 track ‘Imagine’.

One of the most intoxicating tracks from Steely Dan’s 1972 album Can’t Buy A Thrill, ‘Only A Fool Would Say’, opens with an upbeat bossa nova groove crafted from layers of conga, snare, strummed acoustic guitar, and undulating bass. Floating above mellow electric guitar lines, Donal Fagen paints a picture of Lennon as an ignorant aristo whose talk of world peace is completely at odds with the life of the poor and impoverished. “Our world become on/ Of salads and sun / Only a fool would say that,” he begins “A boy with a plan / A natural man /Wearing a white stetson hat”.

Fagen’s image of Lennon as the highfalutin elitist is quickly contrasted with another artfully rendered portrait: this time of the “man in the street” who doesn’t have the luxury of believing in some hippie’s utopian ideal. Fagen tells Lennon to have a little more empathy, to understand that asking somebody with nothing to abandon their worldly possessions and pursue a life of immaterialism is, at best, laughable, and at worst, dangerously insensitive. “You do his nine to five / Drag yourself home half alive / And there on the screen / A man with a dream,” Fagen sings.

The sentiment behind Steely Dan’s lyrics is likely quite familiar. When Gal Gadot organised a Hollywood singalong of Lennon’s ‘Imagine’ in the first month of the Covid-19 pandemic, she was immediately criticised for misreading the room. Far from sparking a surge in benevolent acts of kindness, listeners found a disconnect between Gadot and the gang’s call for the jobless to “imagine no possessions”, and that fact the various stars who contributed to the rendition were singing from multi-million dollar mansions. Clearly, Fagen was right to mock Lennon; his lyrics are still causing outcry to this day.


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KEYWORDS: donalfagen; johnlennon; music; steelydan; thebeatles
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To: KC_Conspirator
...and it seemed all that was playing on the AM radio was Steely Dan or Chicago on a loop.

You could be entitled to significant compensation.
121 posted on 03/09/2022 3:53:06 PM PST by ratzoe
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To: Bullish

Who on this thread has ever heard the instermental prelude to “Rikki Don’t Lose That Number”?


123 posted on 03/09/2022 3:58:52 PM PST by nesnah (Infringe - act so as to limit or undermine [something]; encroach on)
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To: nesnah

I heard them play it live in ‘73 Can’t remember if they did the long intro but I think they probably did.

BTW, best concert I have ever been to bar none.


126 posted on 03/09/2022 4:07:43 PM PST by Bullish (This is the most bloated and most inept govt in history.)
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To: Night Hides Not

Dire Straits ? Interesting. I can see that being effective.

Would I be dating myself if I mentioned Gino Vinnelli, Storm at Sunup ?
Talk about a leg spreader!


127 posted on 03/09/2022 4:09:16 PM PST by moehoward (.)
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To: Night Hides Not

A veritable who’s who parade of great guitarists passed through the studio with Steely Dan… Denny Dias, Larry Carlton, Elliott Randall, Dean Parks. And Becker was no slouch on the axe either.

Kid Charlemagne is still one of the best, most stylish guitar chops ever, to me. That was Larry Carleton gettin’ it done…


128 posted on 03/09/2022 4:11:20 PM PST by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.She was, indeed, a hottie… Rest in peace, Joanne.)
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To: ping jockey

No static at all.......


129 posted on 03/09/2022 4:12:55 PM PST by RushIsMyTeddyBear (Miss you Rush!)
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To: KC_Conspirator

LOL! You had it better than I! It was MUZAK in our station wagon!


130 posted on 03/09/2022 4:15:28 PM PST by RushIsMyTeddyBear (Miss you Rush!)
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To: Bullish; ping jockey

https://youtu.be/kaxMrzrkzwI

It’s not long.


131 posted on 03/09/2022 4:17:59 PM PST by nesnah (Infringe - act so as to limit or undermine [something]; encroach on)
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To: nesnah

Oh sure, now I know what you’re talking about.


132 posted on 03/09/2022 4:31:22 PM PST by Bullish (This is the most bloated and most inept govt in history.)
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To: 1FreeAmerican

Aja still sounds like it was just recorded… timeless, stylish, slick, and beautiful.

“Home At Last” is one of my all time favorite songs. The guitar work shines.


133 posted on 03/09/2022 4:36:02 PM PST by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.She was, indeed, a hottie… Rest in peace, Joanne.)
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To: ping jockey

Well said… they had an amazing, eclectic mix of styles and found the talent to fit each song rather than the other way around.

I still load up the 5 disc changer with Katy Lied, Aja, Royal Scam, Pretzel Logic, Can’t Buy a Thrill… all of their stuff in rotation.

I thought Gaucho was weakest, but still had great music…


134 posted on 03/09/2022 4:39:38 PM PST by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.She was, indeed, a hottie… Rest in peace, Joanne.)
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To: Bullish

MUST LISTEN later. So far, it sounds like a great answer to fools who idolize “Imagine.” OMG! Imagine explains transgenderism. Oy vey.


135 posted on 03/09/2022 4:41:02 PM PST by NetAddicted ( Just looking)
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To: fedupjohn

Yeah my band covered don’t take me alive, kid Charlemagne, reeling in the years, and my old school back in the 80s. I did most of the guitar work on those songs with my band, but my other guitarist traded off once in a while with me.

Always went over well in the Philly andJersey clubs back in the day


136 posted on 03/09/2022 4:41:28 PM PST by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.She was, indeed, a hottie… Rest in peace, Joanne.)
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To: nuconvert
Well, I think my parody need work:
Imagine there’s no heaven
It’s more easy if you’re high;
No hell below us,
Above us, only sky

Imagine all the people,
Livin’ for that lie,
A-haa.

Imagine there’s no countries,
So there’s more drugs to do.
Nothing to live or die for,
And no religion, too.

Imagine all the people,
living for my high.

You may say I’m a dreamer,
But I’m not the only one,
I hope someday you’ll join us,
So the devil will have won.

Imagine no possessions,
I’ll wonder if you can.
But buy my music,
Oh brotherhood of man!

Imagine all the people
Paying for my $ongs

You may say I’m a dreamer,
But I’m not the only one.
I hope someday you’ll join us,
So in Hell we're done.


137 posted on 03/09/2022 4:51:35 PM PST by daniel1212 (Turn to the Lord Jesus as a damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save U + be baptized + follow Him!)
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To: dfwgator
"Same thing happened with Andy Partridge and XTC, another of my favorite bands."

Because his wife dumped his Valium script in the trash halfway through the 1980 tour. Fortunate to see them at Ginnings before he flipped out.

As for Steely, Fagan lost his shit because he couldn't control the live version when they were a 'band'.

There is a Youtube of Steely early live where Skunk nearly derails "Years" at the open with a wild, beautiful, but 'flaky' lead-in, and the camera pans to Fagen and he is about to barf.

There is an early Wings Over America concert video where Jimmy McCulloch, exact same thing, is destroying the jam lead-in to Medicine Jar (his song, btw), and Macca keeps glancing anxiously stage right. Gone from the band a year later, and Macca went back to mostly recording without touring ... only to get nailed in Japan for weed, opening an ambitious tour for "Back To The Egg".

138 posted on 03/09/2022 5:01:05 PM PST by StAnDeliver (Each of you have at least 1 of these in your 401k: Pfizer, Moderna, AstraZeneca, J&J, Merck and GSK)
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To: Red Badger
One that I wanted to see but never could..............

I got to see Steely Dan a few years ago at Shoreline in Mountain View, and consider myself very lucky, especially now that Walter has passed.
139 posted on 03/09/2022 5:49:45 PM PST by AnotherUnixGeek
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