Posted on 01/16/2022 3:03:09 PM PST by algore
Police departments are not supposed to be part of the mafia.
And for 21 years, he has probably been abusing his badge, while she was apparently following department policy and procedures. Your reference to her as a "chick" speaks volumes.
According to the article, department policy required her to intervene.
Article said that in 20 years, he had two allegations of excessive use of force, and was cleared on both. If you are, or were a Correctional Officer, you know that inmates like to play the system, and will make false allegations against staff. And you must know that it isn't any different on the street, because most of these perps have been in the system for many years. Two allegations of excessive use of force in 20 years, and being cleared on both, tells me that this guy does not abuse his authority. That female cop had no business grabbing the Sergeant, especially in front of the perp. There's no video evidence that the Sergeant actually used pepper spray on the guy in the car. This incident is three months old, and the Sergeant hasn't yet been charged with anything. If the City has proof that he went too far, then you'd think he'd have already had charges filed against him, and he'd be suspended from the job.
Yup!..shes a 2 year Veteran and trained at least 1 of those years to be fully “woke”....Its a shame she didn't have a qualified unarmed “mental health expert” with her to show her how to deescalate the situation and teach him how to get into the back seat of a cop car peacefully......./s
Corrupt prison guards allowed Jeffrey Epstein to get wacked while in jail. Corrupt prison guards are abusing the crap out of 1/6 political prisoners. Honest prison guards in NYS have been harassed and punished for testifying against corrupt guards who have abused and brutalized prisoners.
You’re sick when you defend a puke who’d attack a fellow officer.
Not saying he was right in grabbing the other officer, but she should have never laid hands on the sergeant in the first place.
“Roids?”
Anabolic steroids are illegal drugs commonly used by weightlifters and cops to add bulk to their muscles.
Common side effects are baldness, explosive aggression, and diminished sexual function.
Cops with bald heads are likely suspects as illegal steroid users.
Those same posters you mention can be found cheerleading Putin on the Ukraine topics. Speaks to their fondness for brutality and dictatorial rule.
Prisoners have magic wands that make contraband simply appear, I guess, since it couldn’t be corrupt prison guards. No, never, prison guards are above reproach. LOL
I am guessing the other officers were having problems with the jerk they arrested and called a sup. He shows up and decides to show 'leadership' by giving the guy a earful to demonstrate to the youngers cops how its done.
The jerk then spits right in his face in front of his subordinate officer. Yea that's going to trigger a reaction every time. I understand, I had a standard if you spit on or bight me you can expect a beat down.
Problem was the guy was already secured and could not have spit on him if just shut the car door.
She tried to save his career and he choked her for it.
Corrupt Federal prison guards who weren't charged by the Feds for not doing their job. What does that tell you?? Corrupt D.C. prison guards persecuting 1/6 prisoners. Why not mention the corrupt Superintendent(s) of the jails that are holding them. They are just as responsible as the C.O's., as is the corrupt government entity run by Democrats, violating people's civil rights. The corrupt Judges doling out unreasonable sentences, and keeping people unreasonably incarcerated for misdemeanor charges. It isn't just the officers involved, it's the whole shebang!! The officers are the ones on the bottom of the ladder. Shit rolls downhill.
I haven't heard of NY State C.O.'s being harassed and punished for testifying against bad officers, but then I've been retired since 2003. It was my experience that nobody wanted to work with anyone who colluded with the convicts, and if anything, we were glad when they were removed from their jobs, because you couldn't trust them to have your back. It was also not normal to have other officers testify against bad officers. I never saw it happen in my 25 years. Usually the State had enough on the person, and they would cut a deal with the accused bad officer, letting him/her resign without departmental charges being brought against them. I never agreed with that procedure.
Are the NY State guard cases you're referring to, involving actual criminal charges? Again, if the bad officer had outside charges against them, then the majority of the officers, at least in my time, would have gone out of their way to get rid of a POS who was a security risk to them all.
Last week I ran into a guy I had worked with many years ago. He was an officer when I retired. He's a Captain now, with 33 years in the department. He said the officers they are hiring now are dumber than a box of rocks, and we both agreed that it was because most of them had no life experience, and went from living in Mommy's basement, to working in a prison. They don't even want to talk to the inmates. It sure as hell wasn't like that when I took the job.
Idiot cop ping
Of course prison guards bring in contraband, as do civilian staff, and visitors, but it's not every officer, and every civilian that works at the prison. The majority of contraband still comes in on visits. That's why officers have to do a cavity search on a convict every time he leaves the visiting room to go back to his cell/unit. But you can't find all of it. If he swallows it, you can't detect it. People also try to send that shit in with packages, but x-ray machines have gotten rid of the majority of that. When I first started in Corrections, back in 1980, I was told the story of how the package room officer, had opened a large bottle of olives, and found the brine had been replaced with alcohol. That was when they were still allowed to get glass jars. That finally ended after an inmate had used a broken jar to cut an officer in one of the prisons. I had an inmate throw a glass jar against the bars as I was walking down the gallery. Thankfully I was able to turn away and shield my eyes, and only got some superficial cuts to my scalp.
The NY State Dept. of Corrections I worked for, thought it was more important that the floors of the units were highly polished, than they were concerned about weapons and drugs on the inmates. If they didn't hear about it, then it didn't happen. They even discouraged us writing misbehavior reports on the convicts, because too many reports would make them look bad to the powers-that-be in Albany, that they didn't have control of their prison. The majority of them are political appointees who will dance for the piper, in order to keep their job.
Here’s an example:
I know the guard who provided eye-witness testimony that lead to the convictions and the loss of his physical and mental health and ultimately his job. He tried to intervene and stop the beating, and was told by superiors to mind his own business. His superiors then told him to falsely tell investigators that the inmate at issue physically attacked the guards. He refused and as a result, his superiors and other guards turned against him. He was harassed, threatened, disciplined, charged with insubordination, etc., and basically forced out of his job because he did the right thing.
Prayers for the guard whom you know; bless him.
I didn’t, she attacked him because she failed and he took over. And pontificate all you want.
And you’re the sick one.
If my daughter is alone somewhere and calls 9/11 because some monster like that thus is kicking in her door, I pray the Sergeant shows up and not -that- female.
He put his hand on her throat. He is an a**hole and his career needs to end. And you’re sick for approving of and defending his assault on another officer.
"Three other former Downstate correction officers pled guilty to the same four offenses. Andrew Lowery pled guilty on July 27, 2016; Donald Cosman pled guilty on August 31, 2016; and Carson Morris, pled guilty on November 1, 2017."
Funny isn't it that there are no sentences mentioned for these other three officers, although they pled guilty to the same four offenses?
I'm assuming Scott and Santiago, along with the three who pled guilty were all suspended once it all came out. Now the question is, were they suspended with pay, or without pay? Years ago, if you were suspended for any allegation brought against you, it was without pay. Then that changed, when the "innocent, until proven guilty" claim was pushed. No one would be suspended without pay. Loss of pay usually only came through an arbitration hearing, if the person was deemed guilty by the arbitrator, and what your punishment would be. In the case of these five people, since they were a security risk to the safe running of the facility, it's possible they could legally be suspended without pay.
"According to evidence introduced at the trial, on Nov. 13, 2013, Moore, 54 at the time of his death, was brought to the facility to be housed overnight."
Although Moore was hospitalized for two weeks due to his injuries, he obviously didn't die, so why does this article say at the time of his death??
I never worked at any prisons downstate. Nobody who worked in any other part of the State ever wanted to have to go downstate. That is a whole different world. You get a lot of people from NY City working in those prisons. Sorry the guy ended up leaving the job over the flak he received.
The State announced in November that it is closing six of its prisons: Moriah Shock, Ogdensburg, Downstate, Southport, Rochester, and Willard Correctional. Downstate has always been the processing facility for all inmates sentenced to do time in New York prisons. They would be evaluated, and then they would eventually be transferred somewhere else in the State. If its any consolation, if the people who harassed your acquaintance are still at Downstate, they will all be bounced to another facility, or be demoted if they don't have the seniority to hold that position at another facility. Any new officers who were assigned to those facilities that are closing, if there aren't any permanent items for them anywhere else, they will be laid off. It happened back in 1996 or 1997, when Mario Cuomo was Governor. They had double-bunked several of the prisons in the State due to overcrowding. My facility was one of them. They brought in a couple new Sergeants, and hired extra officers in the State. Then when they debunked those same prisons 6-8 months later, everybody got bounced back. The Sergeants went back to being officers, and the new officers got laid off. I am so glad that I was able to retire in 2003. I was in Tier 1 retirement system with almost 33 years of service in the system. Because I was in Tier 1, I was credited a month, for every year of service, so I got to retire 23 months earlier, because I was 56 at the time. I got out while the gettin' was good, and never regretted it.
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