Actually, there should have been a de-communization in Russia, as Germany had a de-nazification after WW2. Communist party in Russia won 20% of the votes in the last election.
Posted on 12/27/2021 1:45:07 AM PST by Olog-hai
Thirty years after the collapse of the Soviet Union, a significant majority of Russians continue to feel nostalgia for their country’s communist past, according to a recent survey from the country’s leading independent polling agency.
In the Levada Center’s poll, published on Friday, 63 percent of Russian respondents expressed regret over the breakup of the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics (USSR) in 1991. The sentiment was strongest among Russians aged 55 and older, 84 percent of whom described the dissolution as a tragic event.
By contrast, a mere 28 percent of respondents said that they did not regret the demise of the Soviet Union.
The only demographic group in which a majority of respondents did not mourn the event was that of Russians aged 18 to 24.
The Levada Center based its results on a survey of more than 1,600 adults across Russia between November 25 and December 1.
Early last week, a group of Russian lawmakers introduced a bill that would designate the collapse of the USSR as “the greatest geopolitical catastrophe of the 20th century.” […]
The lawmakers’ initiatives echoed sentiments frequently expressed by President Vladimir Putin. …
(Excerpt) Read more at cnsnews.com ...
It collapsed because Communism doesn’t work. Attempting to turn fantasy into reality just doesn’t work.
There is something very sick with Russian society that can only be explained by waves of mass killing wiping out the best and the brightest in favor of the worst or the most servile. Society there (though not in every case) seems to take the form of the typical Russian gulag, with gulag type practices infesting every level of society. For example, mass suicides and mass homosexual rape in the Russian military is the norm:
““That day, [the officers] promised to turn me out. They warned me that, like, they’ll rape me,” the Baza news website quoted Shamsutdinov as saying.
“I know they’d turned all the other young ones out before me. If that evening was my turn, I had nowhere to go, what should I have done?” Shamsutdinov reportedly said.
His father, Salimzhan Shamsutdinov, said earlier in the day that “constant, prolonged” hazing drove his son to carry out the mass shooting.”
Some more:
“He explained how over a period of time, while he was serving as a conscript here in St. Petersburg, he was forced into male prostitution. It was his superiors who made him do this, the people who are traditionally known in the Russian army as ‘dyedi’, or ‘uncles’,” Yezheleva said. “They beat him, and then they gave him a telephone, he arranged a meeting with the client and discussed the price. He went and carried out these functions and then he took the money from the client and gave it to his superiors.”
“Pavel, who has asked that his real name not be revealed, claimed he endured the abuse for several months before approaching the Union of Soldiers’ Mothers Committees, a nationwide group that protects the rights of conscripts in the Russian military. Pavel has written a statement and filed a case in the courts, although no date has been set for a preliminary reading.
“You’re In The Army Now
“Yezheleva said she has heard of few cases where conscripts were forced into prostitution to earn money for their superiors. But she said rape and abuse in the military is not unusual.”
https://www.rferl.org/a/1075412.html
Online, there’s a Josef Stalin fan club! (Mostly older Russian women...)
Communism doesn't work and our latest version of crony/corporate capitalism isn't working either.
Some of the renewed admiration comes from President Vladimir Putin, who often laments the breakup of what had been the world's only other superpower besides the United States.
Putin condemned the “excessive demonization” of Stalin during an interview that aired this summer with Oscar-winning filmmaker Oliver Stone. Putin said attacks on Stalin amounted to "attacking the Soviet Union and Russia."
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2017/08/16/soviet-union-terror-josef-stalin-popularity/556625001/
I wonder what the percentage is in all the countries the Soviet Union absorbed?
The oft repeated Soviet quote
“They pretend to pay us, and we pretend to work”
Doesn’t really work in an economy based on free market principles.
Hyackian economic strategy might work, if a modicum of effort is expended.
Yeah I’m sure the % of folks in the countries ruled by the Soviets that long for it to return is very small!!
I recall in the late nineties there was nostalgia among East Germans for the old DDR. People adapt to circumstances, get familiar with them, and find change, especially sudden disruptive change, to be unwelcome.
What happened is that the Soviet Union heavily subsidized many areas of the country that were not really economically viable, especially in industries associated with producing weapons.
Once the Soviet Union collapsed, those areas became neglected, so it stands to reason the people living in those areas would be nostalgic for Soviet times.
Is it much different than in our Rust Belt, when all of the steel factories shuttered?
We’ve moved beyond crony capitalism straight into fascism.
The Russians have some degree of nostalgia, I bet. Those who were around for it remember some sort of unity and shared goals, regardless of how hard life was. It could even be that they preferred living without modern technology, like luddites. The young ones hear tales of communistic heroism; sacrifice of one for all, and the valiance of the Red Army. They don’t know or care that Stalin was a rapist pig who killed the mother of his daughter and made it look like suicide. He killed millions, tens of millions, through violence, forced labor, and starvation because fear is the only way to get people to submit to communism as he saw it.
I will say though, Russia doesn’t tear down their history as we seem to want to do here in the West, and they don’t see historical figures through the prism of modern times. They acknowledge the good and the bad in their history without making it disappear. Putin walks a fine line, he treats Russia’s Tsarist and Soviet histories pretty much the same, it happened, and no point trying to act as if they never happened.
And polls had hillrey ahead by a landslide.
From the same source:
“More than half of respondents do not support universal mandatory vaccination. Three quarters (76%) of the respondents have a negative attitude towards introduction of electronic passes for public transport.”
https://www.levada.ru/en/category/publications/
Sounds like a lot of Russians are still smarter than a lot of US/UK/Euro-based and allied folks.
Actually, there should have been a de-communization in Russia, as Germany had a de-nazification after WW2. Communist party in Russia won 20% of the votes in the last election.
The same survey center last month showed that only 6% of Russians identify as definitely socialists—with another 12% somewhat so.
https://www.levada.ru/en/2021/10/20/democracy-socialism-and-market-reforms/
As I watched the Soviet Union collapse, a reporter noted that the final straw was government being unable to pay bureaucratic workers.
Back in the USSR.
You dont know how lucky you are...
Russians have a big country mentality. They consider their country a super power and really care what you think about them. They will do their thing and you can like it or not. I think that attitude explains Putin’s foreign policy, etc.
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