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Pope Francis: A Pelagian Lutheran
Remnant Newspaper ^ | April 18, 2018 | Christopher A. Ferrara

Posted on 04/19/2018 2:55:52 PM PDT by ebb tide

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To: ebb tide

Rome left the Truth long before Luther was on the scene.


21 posted on 04/19/2018 4:29:06 PM PDT by ealgeone
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To: ealgeone

I thought you were no fan of Luther.

Why all of a sudden are you defending him?

Who has this “truth” that you brag about?


22 posted on 04/19/2018 4:32:12 PM PDT by ebb tide
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To: ebb tide
I thought you were no fan of Luther.

I'm not.

Why all of a sudden are you defending him?

I'm not.

Who has this “truth” that you brag about?

I think I see the problem with Roman Catholicism...it doesn't recognize the Truth.

23 posted on 04/19/2018 4:39:23 PM PDT by ealgeone
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To: ealgeone

Once again, you won’t answer a simple question.


24 posted on 04/19/2018 4:46:06 PM PDT by ebb tide
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To: ebb tide

Once again you don’t understand the answers.


25 posted on 04/19/2018 4:53:35 PM PDT by ealgeone
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To: ebb tide

Again, it’s clear you miss the point.

But I’ll try to explain it again cause maybe some day you’ll get it.

The issue isn’t that it happens. Sexual predators will infiltrate anywhere to gain access to children. It happens.

It’s how it’s dealt with that’s the issue.

And covering up while the priest is molesting children and then shuffling him on to fresh victims is nothing more than watching the door while the abuse is going on.

The Catholic church is guilty in more ways than it can comprehend in their cover up and enabling of the homosexual perverts who are molesting children.

And it’s been going on for a LONG time.

Most other places know how to deal with pedos, which usually involves the words *jail* and *arrest* and *revoked* ( as in credentials).

In Catholicism, not only are they protected, they are rewarded by fresh victims and then promotions.

In most denominations when someone’s sexual impropriety is exposed, their credentials are revoked.

In Catholicism which claims that it is opposed to homosexuality, they let homosexual clergy continue to administer sacraments, because*once a priest, always a priest* and as long as his *intent* is *pure* (whatever that means in practice), the sacraments are considered valid.

What a mockery of God and His holiness.

Catholics and Catholicism would do well to take a lesson from Eli’s sons.


26 posted on 04/19/2018 5:13:56 PM PDT by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith..)
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To: Luircin

And then just go to confession and viola, sins forgiven. No restitution required, they can keep it a secret and nobody has to know. They can do their confession and *penance* in secret and there’s no public confession, no jail time, no consequences of any kind.

Talk about easy believism.


27 posted on 04/19/2018 5:16:58 PM PDT by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith..)
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To: metmom

And just what do you do?

I haven’t seen you confess any sins on FR.


28 posted on 04/19/2018 5:20:05 PM PDT by ebb tide
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To: metmom
In Catholicism which claims that it is opposed to homosexuality, they let homosexual clergy continue to administer sacraments, because*once a priest, always a priest* and as long as his *intent* is *pure* (whatever that means in practice), the sacraments are considered valid.

IIRC, I read somewhere that if the priest's "intent" is not "pure" then whatever he does as a priest is not legit.

It makes me wonder how many Roman Catholics have gone to confession, Mass, etc, and the intention of the priest was not valid, is their confession nullified, does the Mass not count [at least in terms of Roman Catholicism though not actual NT Christianity]?

29 posted on 04/19/2018 5:31:53 PM PDT by ealgeone
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To: metmom

All faiths have sex abuse problems. Here’s just a few dealing with Lutherans.

https://www.nytimes.com/2002/04/13/us/abuse-by-clergy-is-not-just-a-catholic-problem.html

https://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/2004/aprilweb-only/4-19-51.0.html

https://blogs.lcms.org/2015/most-child-molesters-religious/

http://www.citypages.com/news/minnesota-lutherans-demand-change-following-pastor-sex-scandal-6540151

https://cruxnow.com/faith/2014/10/08/ex-south-dakota-pastor-accused-of-child-sex-crimes/

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/valerie-tarico/the-protestant-clergy-sex_b_740853.html


30 posted on 04/19/2018 5:36:09 PM PDT by NKP_Vet ("Man without God descends into madness")
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To: ebb tide

I confess to God, the only one who can forgive me.

And if I find out I have wronged someone, I go to that person themselves.


31 posted on 04/19/2018 5:39:35 PM PDT by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith..)
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To: NKP_Vet

When you get to post 26, you’ll see my reply.


32 posted on 04/19/2018 5:40:35 PM PDT by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith..)
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To: metmom

How do you know God has forgiven you?

Does He talk to you?


33 posted on 04/19/2018 5:45:19 PM PDT by ebb tide
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To: ebb tide

Oh dear; you pulled a story ONE resignation from a heretic denomination that doesn’t represent all Lutherans.

Considering that the Missouri Synod A: doesn’t have bishops and B: doesn’t have female pastors, I really don’t care about your whiny little tantrums.

Whereas you Catholics still have your kiddie rapists, cocaine orgies, and rampant sodomy all through the Vatican and you’re not saying a thing about it.

I’d have less contempt for you if you were willing to take responsibility for your own so-called church’s failings instead of trying to blame everyone else.


34 posted on 04/19/2018 5:45:44 PM PDT by Luircin
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To: ebb tide; metmom

How do you know God has forgiven you?

Does He talk to you?

***

Why, yes. Yes he does.

1 John 1: “8 If we claim to be without sin, we deceive ourselves and the truth is not in us. 9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just and will forgive us our sins and purify us from all unrighteousness. 10 If we claim we have not sinned, we make him out to be a liar and his word is not in us.”

Or are you calling the Apostle John a heretic, just like you called the Apostle Paul a heretic?


35 posted on 04/19/2018 5:47:24 PM PDT by Luircin
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To: ealgeone

“Something [you] read somewhere” isn’t necessarily true. In this particular case, it’s quite false.


36 posted on 04/19/2018 5:47:48 PM PDT by Campion (Halten Sie sich unbedingt an die Lehre! [Hold absolutely onto the Teaching! -- BXVI])
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To: NKP_Vet; metmom

So that makes it ok that Rome hasn’t dealt with a known problem. LOL!


37 posted on 04/19/2018 5:48:03 PM PDT by ealgeone
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To: Luircin
Or are you calling the Apostle John a heretic, just like you called the Apostle Paul a heretic?

Why do you continue to make up stuff and bear false witness?

38 posted on 04/19/2018 5:57:38 PM PDT by ebb tide
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To: ebb tide

That and ‘Pelegian Lutheran’ is an oxymoron, especially since Luther’s biggest beefs with the Romanists were because the Catholics were Pelegian in their heretical works-righteousness and Luther (and Jesus) wasn’t.

But hey, why let the truth get in the way of sinful hate?


39 posted on 04/19/2018 5:59:36 PM PDT by Luircin
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I’d have less contempt for you if you were willing to take responsibility for your own so-called church’s failings instead of trying to blame everyone else.

That's interesting. I'm a Catholic, and I have no contempt for you or other heretics. I pray nightly for y'all.

40 posted on 04/19/2018 6:01:07 PM PDT by ebb tide
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