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1 posted on 05/04/2016 12:46:01 PM PDT by Zeneta
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To: Zeneta

She’s probably thinking the same thing about you. ;)


2 posted on 05/04/2016 12:47:43 PM PDT by fwdude
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ask her how she would feel if she was the 140,00th person in heaven but you had to go to hell because you were 140,001 because you accidentally stepped on an ant when you were a kid...


3 posted on 05/04/2016 12:48:16 PM PDT by GraceG (Only a fool works hard in an environment where hard work is not appreciated...)
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I would say through the screen door next time she comes over, they seem to prefer that.


5 posted on 05/04/2016 12:48:28 PM PDT by Michael.SF. (That was the gift the president gave us, the gift of happiness, of being together,' Cindy Sheehan")
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Ask her why, if they believe that only 144,000 adherents get into heaven, why are they trying so hard to recruit more members into their church?


6 posted on 05/04/2016 12:50:28 PM PDT by dirtboy
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My sister is a JW and the answer is you can’t. They are programmed in the way they discuss religion that attempts to lead you to the answer they want you to give. The best thing you can do for her is love her, pray for her, and set an example that shows her that what she is being told about you and your faith is untrue.


7 posted on 05/04/2016 12:50:42 PM PDT by CityCenter (By the waters of Babylon, there we sat down, yea we wept...)
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Don’t.

FuhGetAhBout’it

The weather and wine will be Mo-beta


8 posted on 05/04/2016 12:50:42 PM PDT by CGASMIA68
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People don’t change until what they are doing doesn’t work for them anymore. The most you can do is find out what the JWs supply her that she doesn’t believe she can find elsewhere, and then show her how you satisfied that need yourself in a better way. But she has to be willing to listen first.


9 posted on 05/04/2016 12:51:26 PM PDT by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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Find out what her values and major goals are. Show her how your religion can help fulfill her values and achieve her goals better than her religion.


10 posted on 05/04/2016 12:52:14 PM PDT by mjp ((pro-{God, reality, reason, egoism, individualism, natural rights, limited government, capitalism}))
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Avoid it if it will cause familial discord. Take care of yourself and your own religion. If you think it appropriate pray for your sister. Perhaps she prays for you?


11 posted on 05/04/2016 12:52:17 PM PDT by Vaquero ( Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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I was with them for a while. Your sister could do worse. She may pass through it on her own but sure as shootin’ if you oppose her or try to talk her out of it the other witnesses will hear of it and she will be encouraged to separate from you.

Personally, from my experience I learned a great deal about the actual teachings in the bible, learned how to be more of an extrovert, being an introvert in a group like that is tough. I also really learned to appreciate applying the biblical principals and had a lot of help in doing so. I felt they were very sincere and honest about their beliefs.

I get the opposing ideas but one things for sure you can’t make someone believe or disbelieve in something unless they want to. Even with a lot of good pointers. She might just move on through it but I know you do not want to lose your sister, and it will be viewed by the witnesses you are going to destroy her faith.

Well, that’s my advice anyway.


12 posted on 05/04/2016 12:52:22 PM PDT by Beowulf9
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In a certain sense I want to undermine what I think is a cult.

Give her the definition of a cult.

1. Do they work to insert themselves between family members as the central authority besides a personal relationship with god into your life?

2. Do they control what you eat, what you celebrate and who you may associate with?

3. Do they require that you shun other members of the community who are law abiding because they are not a member of that group, despite having similar theological beliefs.?

If 2 out of 3, then it’s a cult.


13 posted on 05/04/2016 12:52:23 PM PDT by GraceG (Only a fool works hard in an environment where hard work is not appreciated...)
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Don’t


14 posted on 05/04/2016 12:53:01 PM PDT by Daveinyork
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I have a sister-in-law who is a nice person but who has pursued a religious tradition that puts her at odds with her entire family.

Fortunately, she is as right-wing as the rest of us, so we can talk about politics ad infinitum.

But when we meet at family gatherings, we don’t talk about religion.


15 posted on 05/04/2016 12:53:23 PM PDT by paterfamilias
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She probably sees you as a lost soul. If you value your relationship, speak nothing of it. Shop, eat and enjoy the time you have with her.


17 posted on 05/04/2016 12:54:19 PM PDT by Dallas59 (Only a fool stumbles on things behind him.)
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Nobody can refute Christ’s own words about salvation and what we must “do” to achieve it. It’s a very narrow road and MANY love the broad path to destruction. We cannot work our way to Salvation. Christ did it all for us on the cross.

I’m not trying to push a “religion”. I’m pushing Truth found only in Christ. God Bless You and your sister!

John 3:36
John 14:6
John 6:29
Acts 4:11-12
Romans 10:9-10
1 John 3:23
Acts 16:31
Ephesians 2:8


18 posted on 05/04/2016 12:54:20 PM PDT by Roman_War_Criminal (God is a racist! Get over it snowflakes. Deuteronomy 7:6-8; Romans 9:13-15)
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google “kingdom of the cults”. It goes into JW in depth.

There are two doctrines that cause a group to be considered outside of Christianity. Those are “Who God is” and “The Plan of Salvation”. If you modify either of those two, you aren’t considered Christian.

JW have done both. They’ve denied the diety of Jesus. To do that they have their own translation of scripture that language historians agree, you can’t get that translation from the originals.

I’d focus on the scriptures that show Jesus was God.

Their salvation has elements of work in it. You have to do what they say to be saved. It’s not “saved by grace, not by works”.


19 posted on 05/04/2016 12:55:06 PM PDT by DannyTN
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If you have a somewhat “temperamental” dog like a rottweiler, just let it out the door. That’s how I “talk” to the JW’s that come to my house.


20 posted on 05/04/2016 12:57:31 PM PDT by ObozoMustGo2012
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Reminds me of the old Cheech and Chong skit. “I used to be messed up on drugs, but since I found the Lord, now I’m really messed up on the Lord” or something like that.


23 posted on 05/04/2016 1:00:10 PM PDT by paintriot
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Avoid the topic unless she pushes it.

Leave several Bibles laying around bookmarked to John 14:6.


24 posted on 05/04/2016 1:00:20 PM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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veerrrrrry carefully


25 posted on 05/04/2016 1:01:22 PM PDT by babble-on
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