Posted on 06/04/2014 9:51:45 PM PDT by boatbums
Almost 800 babies and children were buried in a mass grave in Ireland near a home for unmarried mothers run by nuns, according to new research Wednesday which throws more light on the Irish Catholic Church's troubled past.
Death records suggest 796 children, from newborns to eight-year-olds, were deposited in a grave near a Catholic-run home for unmarried mothers during the 35 years it operated from 1925 to 1961.
Historian Catherine Corless, who made the discovery, says her study of death records for the St Mary's home in Tuam in County Galway suggests that a former septic tank near the home was a mass grave.
The septic tank, full to the brim with bones, was discovered in 1975 by locals when concrete slabs covering the tank broke up.
Until now, locals believed the bones mainly stemmed from the Great Irish famine of the 1840s when hundreds of thousands perished.
St Mary's, run by the Bons Secours Sisters, was one of several such 'mother and baby' homes in early 20th century Ireland.
Thousands of unmarried pregnant women -- labelled at the time as 'fallen women' -- were sent to the homes to have their babies.
The women were ostracised by the conservative-Catholic society and were often forced to hand over their children for adoption.
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In case you don’t accept Wikipedia as a reputable source, here’s another link with more detail about the horrible conditions at the Protestant home:
http://www.magdalenelaundries.com/bethany_history.pdf
Sounds as if this Bethany had problems and there were instances of abuse, both physical and sexual, that occurred there. There are allegations of adults who were there as children. The home was inspected by Irish government authorities on numerous occasions. The children who died there were buried in individual graves, unmarked. The home had Church of Ireland members on the board but was not a Protestant church-run institution, according to what I’ve been able to locate.
Compare this to Tuam, run by nuns and the Catholic Church. Where are the records of inspection and allegations of adults who were there as children? There are allegations of there being children there, who had the appearance of starvation, almost skeletal with distended bellies, from local residents who saw them. But, nothing else that I’ve seen. The septic tank full of skeletal remains was kept up by a local couple of their own volition, they assumed it contained dead from the potato famine.
Why is that?
Yes, weren’t a lot of people just buried in shrouds?
I’m an organ donor too. It seems like a no-brainer to me, but some are freaked out by it. To each his own. The University of Washington has a willed body program, too.
One of the girls I blues dance with is a big booster of organ donation because her sister has a liver transplant. I thought that was a big deal until I met a woman in my P-patch with a heart transplant for 2 years. And p-patch work is fairly hard, physically.
People who long for the good old days overlook medical advances.
I guess “no-brainer” may have been an unfortunate figure of speech, since people have already been scolded for joking.
“Let me ask you, as a Catholic, do you approve of what these people did in the name of the Catholic Church?”
What did “they” do? They took care of the poor and unwanted, we know that. What is it that you deem so evil that anyone should be ashamed?
In case you dont accept Wikipedia as a reputable source, heres another link with more detail about the horrible conditions at the Protestant home:
http://www.magdalenelaundries.com/bethany_history.pdf
So hey bums - you seem not so horrified at what a proddy institution did, why is that? Where are your apologies and penances? Too busy dining with the yachting crowd to worry about the beam in your own eye?
Hey, narses, why would you think I'm not horrified by ANY such abuse? In case you didn't notice, this thread's article came out a few DAYS ago about a Catholic-run home for unwed mothers in Ireland and the discovery of a huge, used septic tank packed to the top with the bodies of HUMAN beings - babies and young children which was discovered by some kids playing there. Has it hit your brain yet that such things are a TERRIBLE testimony for those who say they are pro-life? That link you gave, in case you didn't bother to read it, speaks about the MAGDALENE Laundries, too. Read it and get back to us about all the bad things you want to blame on all Protestants. Maybe you missed my earlier post:
This reflects badly on ALL pro-life people, not just Roman Catholics. It distresses me and SHOULD do so for others.
Here's a thought...look to yourself and what YOU do to promote pro-life goals and get off your defensive high horse over anything that reflects negatively on your chosen religion. Your participation on these threads might actually mean something for a change.
You seem to go out of your way to post negative articles about the Catholic Church, but when there is an equally horrific article concerning protestants, not so much. The Bethany Home scandal was brought to light in Ireland a few years ago, yet I somehow doubt we would find anything about it in your posting history.
It is truly sad the usual suspects are so eager to swallow what the media feeds them, as long as it is against the Church. One of them jumped to the conclusion this was due to abortion and has assigned that keyword to this thread. At least some of the truth is starting to come out.
I never used that word dumped, Catherine Corless, a local historian in Co Galway, tells The Irish Times. I never said to anyone that 800 bodies were dumped in a septic tank. That did not come from me at any point. They are not my words.
Between them the boys levered up the slab. There were skeletons thrown in there. They were all this way and that way. They werent wrapped in anything, and there were no coffins, he says. But there was no way there were 800 skeletons down that hole. Nothing like that number. I dont know where the papers got that. How many skeletons does he believe there were? About 20.
This building was an old workhouse before it was an orphanage, but I'm sure there are some here who "know" these 20 skeletons were dumped there by nuns after performing abortions.
Rather than orphanage, it was a mother and baby home.
I’m with you on this one
Even if the causes of death were legit....bury in a septic tank?
I would not bury my communist cousin in San Fransisco in the septic tank
Something stinks.....that’s not a joke....this sure ain’t funny
It is truly sad the usual suspects are so eager to swallow what the media feeds them, as long as it is against the Church. One of them jumped to the conclusion this was due to abortion and has assigned that keyword to this thread. At least some of the truth is starting to come out.
I never used that word dumped, Catherine Corless, a local historian in Co Galway, tells The Irish Times. I never said to anyone that 800 bodies were dumped in a septic tank. That did not come from me at any point. They are not my words.
Between them the boys levered up the slab. There were skeletons thrown in there. They were all this way and that way. They werent wrapped in anything, and there were no coffins, he says. But there was no way there were 800 skeletons down that hole. Nothing like that number. I dont know where the papers got that. How many skeletons does he believe there were? About 20.
This building was an old workhouse before it was an orphanage, but I’m sure there are some here who “know” these 20 skeletons were dumped there by nuns after performing abortions.
“Does JR know you hound and harass people you think have money? It’s creepy!”
Let’s ask him? Jim - did you know that one poster here claims that I “hound and harrass” people here who have money?
(I don’t, but that is the nasty claim by the hater who jumps on every anti-Catholic thread and seems to buy ever anti-Catholic slander published.)
I have pinged my list as they can help either confirm or deny ‘bums claim that I am a “creepy harrasser”!
Wow. So you consider being cremated or buried in an individual wooden coffin to be *worse* than having the body crammed into a feces-and-urine storage tank with hundreds of other corpses. Your grasp of reality is so poor I don’t think there’s any point in attempting to communicate with you.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Los_Angeles_fetus_disposal_scandal
http://girlsjustwannahaveguns.com/2014/03/soulless-bodies-aborted-babies-burned-heat-uk-hospitals/
You want more?
Perhaps you would like to read this article before swallowing the AP, Washington Post and NY Times reports whole
Here is a more level-headed article about this. Certainly not the hyperventilating propaganda of the AP
Thanks.
Maybe you should read a more level-headed version of the story, instead of AP propaganda
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