Posted on 03/08/2014 6:07:03 AM PST by Flotsam_Jetsome
So when did Ann's and Obama Sr.'s "whatever happened happened fast" wedding happen? For no apparent reason, confusion abounds among Obama's biographers over the wedding date:
1. Dreams claims that Ann and Obama Sr. were in married "in 1960"; similarly, Mendell's 2007 book claims that the couple were married "sometime in late 1960" when they "slipped off alone to the island of Maui"; and both Obamaland (2008) by Ron Jacobs (with contributor David Maraniss) and a 2007 Washington Post article claim that the two were married "late in 1960."
2. A 2007 Chicago Tribune article vaguely claims that Ann and Obama Sr. were married "six months before" Barack's birth on Aug 4, 1961 -- or, in other words, sometime in early 1961.
3. An April 2008 Time article by Amanda Ripley, as does Maraniss's August 2008 article, gives a specific date of February 2, 1961 for the wedding, apparently based on Ann's and Obama Sr.'s 1964 divorce records – mysteriously appearing on the web. But since fake documents have been known to appear on the web, Obama's biographers, Ripley and Maraniss, might want to verify the 1964 divorce documents – especially since a Feb. 2, 1961 marriage date for "Ann and Obama Sr." wasn't reported in any Honolulu Advertiser or Honolulu Star-Bulletin marriage lists from February 1961. Take the February 8, 1961 Star-Bulletin, which listed eighteen marriages from Feb. 3, Feb. 4, and Feb. 6, and no Feb. 2 marriages, and the February 7, 1961 Advertiser, which listed eleven marriages from Feb. 2 to 4, including two Feb. 2 marriages.
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“In 1955, the chairman of the Mercer Island school board, John Stenhouse, testified before the House Un-American Activities Subcommittee that he had been a member of the Communist Party.”
The Chicago Tribune mentions a description of the Dunham’s chosen church as “The Little Red Church on the Hill”. According to its own website, East Shore Unitarian Church got that name because of, “Well-publicized debates and forums on such controversial subjects as the admission of ‘Red China’ to the United Nations....” The fact that John Stenhouse once served as church president might also have contributed to the “red” label.
http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/10/barack_obama_red_diaper_baby_1.html
That my posting about looking at Obama for a number of years might be revealing ; but ‘Ultra’ revealing I don’t see. The guy apparently had the makings for a politician not necessarily an eligible POTUSA candidate.
I think I’ll add this quote, tomorrow:
Satyam, truthfulness, means that facts should be presented as they are for the benefit of others. Facts should not be misrepresented. According to social conventions, it is said that one can speak the truth only when it is palatable to others. But that is not truthfulness. The truth should be spoken in a straight and forward way, so that others will understand actually what the facts are. If a man is a thief and if people are warned that he is a thief, that is truth. Although sometimes the truth is unpalatable, one should not refrain from speaking it. Truthfulness demands that the facts be presented as they are for the benefit of others. That is the definition of truth.
This is similar to Judeo-Christian concepts, except the unifying factor is the glory of God and not necessarily the “benefit of others.” People who choose obstinately to rebel against God might not be benefited by hearing truth, but they should hear it anyhow because God wants it heard.
Saul David Alinsky (January 30, 1909 - June 12, 1972) was an American
community organizer and writer. He is generally considered to be the founder of
modern community organizing. He is often noted for his book Rules for Radicals.
How To Create a Social State by Saul Alinsky
There are 8 levels of control that must be obtained before you are able to create a
social state. The first is the most important.
1) Healthcare - Control healthcare and you control the people
2) Poverty - Increase the Poverty level as high as possible,poor peopleare easier to control and will not fight back if you are providing everything for them to live.
3) Debt - Increase the debt to an unsustainable level. That way you are able to increase taxes, and this will produce more poverty.
4) Gun Control - Remove the ability to defend themselves from the Government. That way you are able to create a police state.
5) Welfare - Take control of every aspect of their lives (Food, Housing, and Income)
6) Education - Take control of what people read and listen to - take control of what children learn in school.
7) Religion - Remove the belief in the God from the Government and schools
8) Class Warfare - Divide the people into the wealthy and the poor. This will cause
more discontent and it will be easier to take (Tax) the wealthy with the support of the
poor.
Hey LucyT. Can I get put back on your ping list please? I miss it.
Yes!
You’re on.
Thank you!
You’re very welcome.
I’m not very computer savvy, and lot of people got dropped inadvertently when I moved to a new computer. Sorry you were one of them.
No worries. I was trying to remember if my big mouth posted something that might have got me banned. LOL!
Good to know it wasn’t anything like that.
You and I have been on FR for a while. Hard not to step on a few toes.
Your post here sounds closer to the truth than most of what I’ve read during this entire, pitiful saga.
I wonder if anyone has ever checked FMD’s gravesite...or was he “buried at sea” too, like OBL? It would be interesting to learn if any remnant of his DNA is still in available for testing.
Why would you need Frank’s DNA? Ask his son Mark. He would be happy to clear his father’s name, but what DNA are you going to compare it with?
I believe its the greatest geopolitical conspiracy in this history of mankind. Yet the majority in the worlds population hasn’t a clue. Therefore I also believe it to be supernatural in nature. There simply cannot be any other rational explanation. we are heading swiftly towards Armageadon (sp) :((
The benefit is there; whether people accept or not, is their free will.
That’s the program they’ve been following to a T.
Marxism, pure and simple. Worked so well in the USSR I'm surprised the whole world didn't take it on.(sarc) Works like a charm, just like the National Socialist German Workers' Party, (NAZI) but without any private ownership. The left never sleeps because to steal from, imprison and slaughter millions takes organisation. Lots of it. They need lots of COMMUNITY ORGANISERS
- and there never seems to be a shortage of those.
It’s where the root of benefit-ness happens to be, that is the difference.
Speaking generally I don’t personally place much faith in trying to use “who someone resembles facially” to speculate as to parentage.
However, if anyone is going to insist on going down that route, then they ought to stop and also consider the people still alive who are connected to Obama. The person in that group who has by far the best and most obvious facial resemblance to Obama is Mark Ndesanjo, his purported half brother.
Seeing as there is precious little doubt that Obama Sr was the father of Mark Ndesanjo, that would make it long odds-on favourite that Obama Sr is also the father of Obama.
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