Posted on 03/08/2014 6:07:03 AM PST by Flotsam_Jetsome
So when did Ann's and Obama Sr.'s "whatever happened happened fast" wedding happen? For no apparent reason, confusion abounds among Obama's biographers over the wedding date:
1. Dreams claims that Ann and Obama Sr. were in married "in 1960"; similarly, Mendell's 2007 book claims that the couple were married "sometime in late 1960" when they "slipped off alone to the island of Maui"; and both Obamaland (2008) by Ron Jacobs (with contributor David Maraniss) and a 2007 Washington Post article claim that the two were married "late in 1960."
2. A 2007 Chicago Tribune article vaguely claims that Ann and Obama Sr. were married "six months before" Barack's birth on Aug 4, 1961 -- or, in other words, sometime in early 1961.
3. An April 2008 Time article by Amanda Ripley, as does Maraniss's August 2008 article, gives a specific date of February 2, 1961 for the wedding, apparently based on Ann's and Obama Sr.'s 1964 divorce records – mysteriously appearing on the web. But since fake documents have been known to appear on the web, Obama's biographers, Ripley and Maraniss, might want to verify the 1964 divorce documents – especially since a Feb. 2, 1961 marriage date for "Ann and Obama Sr." wasn't reported in any Honolulu Advertiser or Honolulu Star-Bulletin marriage lists from February 1961. Take the February 8, 1961 Star-Bulletin, which listed eighteen marriages from Feb. 3, Feb. 4, and Feb. 6, and no Feb. 2 marriages, and the February 7, 1961 Advertiser, which listed eleven marriages from Feb. 2 to 4, including two Feb. 2 marriages.
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Especially since I cannot hear Zero’s voice without almost vomiting. And when I heard he had given a speech at the Dem convention and his “father was a Kenyan goatherder” I knew something very weird and bad was waiting in the wings.
I read several paragraphs of the book and, as I recall, it was so graphic I couldn’t read any more. Definitely pornographic and not my preferred choice of literature.
You still didn’t answer my question. I already know what she said.
Your question to me was
“Where was it said that the book was written before Ann was born?”
I’d like to know the answer to that question too.
One day when I have more time to waste than I have now, I’ll try to find the article in which Frank’s editor makes it clear just when that book was written. The paragraph about ‘Ann’ was written about a young girl while Frank was still married to his first wife. He married again before he came to Hawaii in 1948.
http://www.subud-sica.org/index.php?hkat=4&ukat=10
Spiritual Advisor is how she refers to herself. She apparently had some sort of revelation from ‘above’ that she was to take over after her father died...
He married his first wife, Thelma Boyd on July 12, 1931 in Atlanta, Georgia.
All that might mean nothing, but when you take into account that Kezia herself has stated she worked as a waitress in Mombasa, it begins to come together...why there might have been an Obama birth in Mombasa in 1961, (iirc, it was in October) and why, if Hillary did search the UK archives as has been suggested, she might have been disappointed.
It’s all in this article...but even more interesting is the statement that there is no reference to either Stanley Armour Dunham or the kenyan student amongst the records and papers of Frank Marshall Davis. That kinda fits with my theory that he never actually knew either of them personally.
We have never seen anything that places them in the same location together at any time.
Other than the story told by the woman Weatherly-Williams who maintains she was there on a day in 1971 when Stanley Armour brought zero to visit Davis, and a much later anecdote that zero was seen with Davis as a teenager, selling drugs from a hot-dog cart...
The Dunham/Davis friendship is probably just another fabrication.
Quite a few “Anns” in the world, aren’t there.
It’s all in this article...but even more interesting is the statement that there is no reference to either Stanley Armour Dunham or the kenyan student amongst the records and papers of Frank Marshall Davis. That kinda fits with my theory that he never actually knew either of them personally.
We have never seen anything that places them in the same location together at any time.
Other than the story told by the woman Weatherly-Williams who maintains she was there on a day in 1971 when Stanley Armour brought zero to visit Davis, and a much later anecdote that zero was seen with Davis as a teenager, selling drugs from a hot-dog cart...
The Dunham/Davis friendship is probably just another fabrication.
That’s interesting; I didn’t realize that in all of FMD’s papers there was not a mention of any of the Dunhams. That makes me wonder why people fabricated a Stanley Armour/FMD buddy-hood.
They must have had a reason for doing that. The only thing I can think of is to set the stage for a “FMD is the father” scenario in case the Kenyan father story unraveled. Two US citizen parents would be preferable to other alternatives, and we discussed that maybe that was the reason for pushing FMD as a father surfaced in the first place. The more evidence was found that Stanley Ann’s and the Kenyan 0bama’s paths never crossed in the early 60s, the more need for providing an alternate father story.
I wonder who paid Gilbertson to make his mockumentary....
What you posit sounds very likely.
“Where was it said that the book was written before Ann was born?”
I’d like to know the answer to that question too.
My comment was that the incident with a girl named Ann happened before Stanley Ann was born. I may have been wrong about that, but whatever happened to the poor unfortunate Ann, it happened during FMD’s first marriage, and the dates for his second marriage are above some place. So the incident with a girl named Ann (if it happened at all which I hope not), happened either before Stanley Ann was born, or when she was a small child.
No one made a comment about the date of when the book was written. Basically, there is not only no evidence that the “Ann” in the book could have been Stanley Ann, it is actually impossible to have been her, as the dates are entirely wrong (for starters).
Something that just occurred to me. Why did the author of this silly article keep calling Stanley Ann just “Ann”? Weird.
I just glanced through it...anyone who wants to believe it’s an autobiography is welcome to it...published in 1968, after his paper supply business burnt down and he was selling calendars door-to-door was it? After the communist newspaper he wrote for was wound up, iicr, shortly after which Helen left him for a musician...
And they still call him a poet?
I think I have an idea what he was good for. As head of an organisation known as THE PROTECTION OF THE FOREIGN BORN he was perfectly positioned to create an ID for an unidentified child which arrived in Hawaii with Stanley Ann Dunham in 1963.
Davis and the Committee for Protection of Foreign Born
One of the longest lived Communist Party USA fronts was the American Committee for Protection of Foreign Born . Active from 1935 until 1980, the ACFPFB was charged with preventing foreign born communists such Davis’s friend ILWU leader Harry Bridges from deportation.
http://keywiki.org/index.php/Frank_Marshall_Davis
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