Posted on 03/08/2014 6:07:03 AM PST by Flotsam_Jetsome
So when did Ann's and Obama Sr.'s "whatever happened happened fast" wedding happen? For no apparent reason, confusion abounds among Obama's biographers over the wedding date:
1. Dreams claims that Ann and Obama Sr. were in married "in 1960"; similarly, Mendell's 2007 book claims that the couple were married "sometime in late 1960" when they "slipped off alone to the island of Maui"; and both Obamaland (2008) by Ron Jacobs (with contributor David Maraniss) and a 2007 Washington Post article claim that the two were married "late in 1960."
2. A 2007 Chicago Tribune article vaguely claims that Ann and Obama Sr. were married "six months before" Barack's birth on Aug 4, 1961 -- or, in other words, sometime in early 1961.
3. An April 2008 Time article by Amanda Ripley, as does Maraniss's August 2008 article, gives a specific date of February 2, 1961 for the wedding, apparently based on Ann's and Obama Sr.'s 1964 divorce records mysteriously appearing on the web. But since fake documents have been known to appear on the web, Obama's biographers, Ripley and Maraniss, might want to verify the 1964 divorce documents especially since a Feb. 2, 1961 marriage date for "Ann and Obama Sr." wasn't reported in any Honolulu Advertiser or Honolulu Star-Bulletin marriage lists from February 1961. Take the February 8, 1961 Star-Bulletin, which listed eighteen marriages from Feb. 3, Feb. 4, and Feb. 6, and no Feb. 2 marriages, and the February 7, 1961 Advertiser, which listed eleven marriages from Feb. 2 to 4, including two Feb. 2 marriages.
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Obama’s alleged family were not royalty, neither were Stanley Ann’s family. So naming him II had nothing to do with him ascending to a throne.
Yes,sometimes Jr’s are referred to incorrectly as II.
The whole point behind Jr., II, and III...has nothing to do with royalty, it was a simple convention to discriminate between two men with the same name.
Years ago extended families lived under one roof. It was common in Christian families to name a baby after a living adult. To discriminate between two or three individuals with the same name the suffix Jr. was used if the child had the identical name as the father and II was used if the child had the identical name of the uncle, grandfather or cousin.
That’s odd that you’ve never met a Junior. Not even one? For some reason it’s not a popular custom in Australia? It’s definitely not a custom in Jewish families.
I know many with a suffix. Whether it’s on their birth certificate, I have no idea, but it’s on at least one of their passports. I’ve knowns Jr, II (named after a grandfather), III, IV and V’s. One V was called Quint because of his V.
Good point. I cannot find where I read that, so I should not have posted it.
It's not odd if you've never met one. Why are you still harping on it?
Didn't you notice way back, Grandmother memorized a book on etiquette? I wish I had swallowed a dictionary, then I wouldn't need to ever use spell-check.
Would an American book on etiquette be the same as an English book on the same subject? Is that maybe why zero bows to royalty? His middle eastern relatives were anglophiles?
I'm surprised he doesn't curtsy.
I thought that “Albert Hartwell Jr, II”, instead of “Albert Hartwell III” was interesting.
And that presents us with a huge disconnect, doesn't it? His early INS docs show him with a birth year of 1934, and on the fake bc for 1961, he's shown as 25 years old when he should have been 27. Of course the INS docs follow - suddenly his birth year changes to 1936, where it remains and appears on his tombstone under tons of concrete in the village.
His passports also show the two different birth years.
That’s cute. Albert Hartwell Jr had a son and called him Albert Hartwell Jr II.
Which is what he would have been I guess, if that was the father’s full name on his bc.
Mind you, it might never have happened if he had a copy of grandmother’s book on etiquette.
Which one is that?
BHO (senior) or Frank Davis?
It's Frank Marshall Davis. I'm surprised you didn't recognize him. He's another one that looks so much like zero I just can't understand how anyone could even dream he looks at all like Malcolm.
All of that might be accurate information, but the script (fonts) you are displaying in that graphic are nearly illegible on a black background.
Malcom X actuall y is far closer than Frank Davis, but Soweto is a whole different tribe any any of the other three: Facial form, cheeks, chin, brows, ....
Oh shame! I didn’t create it, it’s straight off the pages of Google.
I think Soweto is in South Africa.
Out of the four in the line-up, he most resembles Malcolm?
Funny you should say that, his daughters look a lot like two of malcolms's girls...
Doesn't mean anything, just a curiousity.
I look carefully at everything I get about Obama. In your photos I don’t see a 40-50 year old man Subuh I see a much older man at the time than I believe represents Obama’s age. I don’t know your choice for Obama’s father but I have mine from photos and recorded dots. I’m satisfied we have a disagreement and will let the future show what is reality.
Excerpt from Alice Palmer's Life Under Socialism, a 1986 Report from Moscow on the Communist Party of the Soviet Union's 27th Congress. The Article appeared in the CPUSA's publication, People's Daily World. Palmer was executive board member of the U.S. Peace Council, identified as a Communist front group by FBI. Palmer attended the World Peace Councils Prague assembly in 1983 during the nuclear freeze movement. Palmer hand picked Chicago City Councilman Barack Hussein Obama as her successor in the Illinois State Senate, and it was in the home of two other known communist operatives, Bill Ayers & Bernardine Dohrn, that Obama's ambititious career was launched
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