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The Marriage of Obama's Parents: 'In Name Only'?
American Thinker ^ | March 8, 2014 | Shawn Glasco

Posted on 03/08/2014 6:07:03 AM PST by Flotsam_Jetsome

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To: Fred Nerks

Obama’s alleged family were not royalty, neither were Stanley Ann’s family. So naming him II had nothing to do with him ascending to a throne.


181 posted on 03/09/2014 7:37:41 AM PDT by ladyjane
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To: Brown Deer

Yes,sometimes Jr’s are referred to incorrectly as II.

The whole point behind Jr., II, and III...has nothing to do with royalty, it was a simple convention to discriminate between two men with the same name.

Years ago extended families lived under one roof. It was common in Christian families to name a baby after a living adult. To discriminate between two or three individuals with the same name the suffix Jr. was used if the child had the identical name as the father and II was used if the child had the identical name of the uncle, grandfather or cousin.


182 posted on 03/09/2014 7:47:38 AM PDT by ladyjane
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To: Fred Nerks

That’s odd that you’ve never met a Junior. Not even one? For some reason it’s not a popular custom in Australia? It’s definitely not a custom in Jewish families.

I know many with a suffix. Whether it’s on their birth certificate, I have no idea, but it’s on at least one of their passports. I’ve knowns Jr, II (named after a grandfather), III, IV and V’s. One V was called Quint because of his V.


183 posted on 03/09/2014 8:01:07 AM PDT by ladyjane
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To: Fred Nerks
You might do everyone a favour and list the evidence of her sexual promiscuity. Considering there’s no physical evidence of her presence in Hawaii until 1963, and no one knows for certain where she graduated high school, your evidence would be most interesting.

Good point. I cannot find where I read that, so I should not have posted it.

185 posted on 03/09/2014 12:46:11 PM PDT by zot
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To: ladyjane; Fred Nerks
The FACT is, there are no laws about the usage. Who are YOU to say what is correct and what is incorrect?

Kimball Bannister II
Leo Clifford Bowers II
Carlton Hunt Brannen, II
Charles Edward Campbell 2nd
William LeRoy Carlton II
Richard Stanhope Carpenter, II
William Castleton II
Samuel Richard Chasteen II
Gordon Clark II
Charles E. Conn II
Richard Watson Coryell II
Richard Lee Cragg II
John Richard Davis II
Donald Eastman Fogg II
Harold Hugh Forbes II
Walter William Ford II
Dean McLeod Frost II
Don Gilmore II
Thomas Laine Goff II
Elliott Bickley Gose, 2nd
Manuel R. Gradillas 2nd
Fremont Ray Harris,II
Albert Hartwell Jr, II
Roy Lee Herndon II
Salvador Herrera II
Charles Newton Hicks, II

IMHO, whoever his parents were, had nothing to do with what is on that forged birth certificate! Certainly, Barack Hussein Obama, Sr. didn't, because he would have known his correct age.

...it was a simple convention to discriminate between two men with the same name.

It also happens with females.
186 posted on 03/09/2014 1:07:48 PM PDT by Brown Deer (Pray for 0bama. Psalm 109:8)
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To: ladyjane
...That’s odd that you’ve never met a Junior. Not even one?

It's not odd if you've never met one. Why are you still harping on it?

187 posted on 03/09/2014 1:11:59 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum)
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To: Brown Deer
...The FACT is, there are no laws about the usage. Who are YOU to say what is correct and what is incorrect?

Didn't you notice way back, Grandmother memorized a book on etiquette? I wish I had swallowed a dictionary, then I wouldn't need to ever use spell-check.

Would an American book on etiquette be the same as an English book on the same subject? Is that maybe why zero bows to royalty? His middle eastern relatives were anglophiles?

I'm surprised he doesn't curtsy.

188 posted on 03/09/2014 1:36:23 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum)
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To: Fred Nerks

I thought that “Albert Hartwell Jr, II”, instead of “Albert Hartwell III” was interesting.


189 posted on 03/09/2014 1:42:42 PM PDT by Brown Deer (Pray for 0bama. Psalm 109:8)
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To: Brown Deer
...whoever his parents were, had nothing to do with what is on that forged birth certificate! Certainly, Barack Hussein Obama, Sr. didn't, because he would have known his correct age.

And that presents us with a huge disconnect, doesn't it? His early INS docs show him with a birth year of 1934, and on the fake bc for 1961, he's shown as 25 years old when he should have been 27. Of course the INS docs follow - suddenly his birth year changes to 1936, where it remains and appears on his tombstone under tons of concrete in the village.

His passports also show the two different birth years.

GOOGLE

190 posted on 03/09/2014 1:56:49 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum)
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To: Brown Deer

That’s cute. Albert Hartwell Jr had a son and called him Albert Hartwell Jr II.
Which is what he would have been I guess, if that was the father’s full name on his bc.
Mind you, it might never have happened if he had a copy of grandmother’s book on etiquette.


191 posted on 03/09/2014 2:01:50 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum)
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To: Flotsam_Jetsome

Which one is that?

BHO (senior) or Frank Davis?


192 posted on 03/09/2014 2:05:32 PM PDT by Robert A Cook PE (I can only donate monthly, but socialists' ABBCNNBCBS continue to lie every day!)
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To: Robert A. Cook, PE

It's Frank Marshall Davis. I'm surprised you didn't recognize him. He's another one that looks so much like zero I just can't understand how anyone could even dream he looks at all like Malcolm.


193 posted on 03/09/2014 2:12:51 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum)
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To: Fred Nerks

All of that might be accurate information, but the script (fonts) you are displaying in that graphic are nearly illegible on a black background.


194 posted on 03/09/2014 2:14:49 PM PDT by Robert A Cook PE (I can only donate monthly, but socialists' ABBCNNBCBS continue to lie every day!)
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To: Fred Nerks

Malcom X actuall y is far closer than Frank Davis, but Soweto is a whole different tribe any any of the other three: Facial form, cheeks, chin, brows, ....


195 posted on 03/09/2014 2:17:11 PM PDT by Robert A Cook PE (I can only donate monthly, but socialists' ABBCNNBCBS continue to lie every day!)
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To: Robert A. Cook, PE

Oh shame! I didn’t create it, it’s straight off the pages of Google.


196 posted on 03/09/2014 2:18:00 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum)
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To: Robert A. Cook, PE

I think Soweto is in South Africa.


197 posted on 03/09/2014 2:18:54 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum)
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To: Robert A. Cook, PE
So what you're sayinbg is that he doesn't resemble the kenyan Luo, nor the african-american communist poet, and certainly not the short legged Indonesian guru?

Out of the four in the line-up, he most resembles Malcolm?

Funny you should say that, his daughters look a lot like two of malcolms's girls...

Doesn't mean anything, just a curiousity.

198 posted on 03/09/2014 2:25:59 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum)
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To: Fred Nerks

I look carefully at everything I get about Obama. In your photos I don’t see a 40-50 year old man Subuh I see a much older man at the time than I believe represents Obama’s age. I don’t know your choice for Obama’s father but I have mine from photos and recorded dots. I’m satisfied we have a disagreement and will let the future show what is reality.


199 posted on 03/09/2014 2:35:00 PM PDT by noinfringers2 ( /*)
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To: Robert A. Cook, PE

Excerpt from Alice Palmer's Life Under Socialism, a 1986 Report from Moscow on the Communist Party of the Soviet Union's 27th Congress. The Article appeared in the CPUSA's publication, People's Daily World. Palmer was executive board member of the U.S. Peace Council, identified as a Communist front group by FBI. Palmer attended the World Peace Council’s Prague assembly in 1983 during the nuclear freeze movement. Palmer hand picked Chicago City Councilman Barack Hussein Obama as her successor in the Illinois State Senate, and it was in the home of two other known communist operatives, Bill Ayers & Bernardine Dohrn, that Obama's ambititious career was launched

SOURCE

200 posted on 03/09/2014 2:35:37 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum)
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