Posted on 02/16/2013 9:30:15 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
What many Americans consider “common sense” efforts to curb gun violence and ownership of military-style assault rifles and high-capacity magazines is met by much criticism and the claim that it is merely the first step toward confiscation.
The rhetoric sometimes seems to border on hysteria, and the “facts” and “quotes” mere fabrications to bolster an argument. There really should be a rule that if you are going to disseminate information be it a quote, a picture or a fact it should be accompanied by sufficient citation allowing the average reader to verify its veracity. Otherwise people on both sides of the argument are descending into the bowels of a propaganda campaign they claim to be sworn to oppose.
It is doubted that anyone or any side will claim that our current system is functioning. There are claims that hammers kill more than firearms, that the problem is medications do not control behaviors, etc., but there is little acknowledgment that the system is broken. We have had limits on the sale of military assault rifles previously without progressing to confiscation and we can again. Yes, the Supreme Court ruled that the right to bear arms is just that, a right, but please read the entire opinion as it also ruled that restrictions were not without merit.
There is overwhelming support for bans on assault rifles, high-capacity magazines and universal background checks. The vast majority of gun owners are responsible. However, there are too many who are “straw buyers” for non-qualified purchasers; there are too many unlicensed dealers who sell literally hundreds of guns per year without any knowledge of the buyer. There are too many private and gun show sales to whomever appear with cash in hand. It has become true that some “legal” gun owners have indeed become outlaws...
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“I lived in CO for six years growing up. What the hell has happened to that fine state?”
California happened to that fine state.
Re: Your Post #9.
Yup.
That's exactly what the left will say, but they're disingenuous. Oh, maybe some of them really believe it will stop at registration, but have no doubt. A good number of them really want to confiscate guns. That's their end game, and registration makes confiscation extremely easy.
Let's say you happen to be on the government's list of people who had a background check. As I understand it, this isn't simply comparing your name against a list of people who aren't authorized to buy guns. When you get a background check, they get all sorts of information from you, including what you purchased. That information just doesn't simply disappear.
So let's say one of the weapons you purchased is now illegal to own, and you're given 30 days to turn it in. They know you purchased one. If you don't own it now, they'll want to know what happened to it. Most people will comply. If you're one of the holdouts, you're going to be under even more scrutiny. Maybe the guys in black will even do a midnight raid on you.
It's far, far easier to confiscate guns in stages than to take them all at once. The left is very good at this. It's exactly how they're working the gay rights crap. It starts with tolerance, then gay marriage, then equal treatment rules, then bans on “hate speech,” etc. Gun background checks are simply the first step toward eventual confiscation.
Personally? I'm not really opposed to background checks if it stops there, but the left clearly wants far more controls on guns. That's the problem.
“Why are liberals so stupid, and why do the factors they’d never accept as justifying policies they disagree with ample support for ones they like?”
Because liberals emote, not think.
Saying your position has overwhelming support is a logical fallacy called the bandwagon appeal.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argumentum_ad_populum
It’s actually an effective propaganda technique. Anyone who disagrees with the author is painted as out of touch with the majority. The same technique is being used to increase support for sodomite “marriage.” Polls clearly show most people are in favor of it, so you’re abnormal if you don’t agree. It makes people shift their opinion to the perceived majority’s, which makes it even easier to sell as the majority opinion.
I prefer to hand in the ammo first at 1500fps.
The “media” needs a good whippin’.
They misquote, they mis-spell, they make-up stuff- they LIE.
It’s about time THEY are dragged into the light and ridiculed.
The Tea Party protested CNN in 2010-in Atlanta-(of course, it was never COVERED by CNN), but, as small as the protest was (about 200), it was extremely satisfying to be a part of it.
The MEDIA is the enemy, 2nd only to Bath-House Barry Soetoro, Soros and “The Iranian of the Day”-Valerie Jarrett.
If I need to get nasty, I shall.
I'd have no objection to background checks if it were done without the government ever coming into possession of the names of those exercising their rights under the Constitution (and it could be, easily). Since it could easily be done anonymously, and they've chosen a method that's NOT anonymous, that tells me all I need to know about their intentions.
Well, if the majority are idiots that actually doesn't reflect badly on the outliers.
“Jim Hoffman is a local Realtor...”
Little known fact; The National Association of Realtors leans HEAVILY liberal.
HEAVILY liberal.
I love their commercials that imply that membership in their association is a prerequisite to calling yourself a “realtor”, the dictionary definition of the term be damned.
Good luck with that.
No leftist survivors.
That’s the key.
Have you ever seen this? It is a clip (less than 2 minutes) from a television movie called, 'The Contender' (2000). It is about a woman, Senator Laine Hanson, (played nicely by actress Joan Allen) who has been appointed by the President to replace his Vice President who had passed away a few weeks earlier. In this clip, Hanson is testifying before the Senate during her confirmation hearing.
The movie is a liberal Hollywood producer's wet dream of the way big government should operate, and it is a dead-on window into the mind of today's typical liberal Democrat. In this brief speech, the nominee lays out exactly what liberal Democrats lust for in their hearts but can never say out loud. (By the way, notice also that Senator Laine Hanson stops twice to take a drink of water):
“There really should be a rule that if you are going to disseminate information be it a quote, a picture or a fact it should be accompanied by sufficient citation allowing the average reader to verify its veracity. (...snip...) There is overwhelming support for bans on assault rifles, high-capacity magazines and universal background checks.” (No citation provided)
LOL! Now THAT’S rich.
Metastatization of Califonianoma
Known here. One fifth of the funds used to defeat the measure which would have abolished the property tax in ND came from the National Association of Realtors. The NEA kicked in another fifth, AARP even weighed in against getting rid of the property tax with 20K. That was nearly half the budget used to defeat the measure.
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