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I've wondered that myself, from a different perspective, of course.
1 posted on 12/22/2012 4:29:40 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
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What part of Joel is libertarian? His anus?


30 posted on 12/22/2012 5:26:47 PM PST by jwalsh07
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Conservatives rarely resort to gun violence. All the assassinations and mass killings have been leftists.


31 posted on 12/22/2012 5:30:48 PM PST by gitmo ( If your theology doesn't become your biography it's useless.)
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“America is at that awkward stage. It’s too late to work within the system, but it’s too early to start shooting the bastards.”

~ Claire Wolfe


32 posted on 12/22/2012 5:31:38 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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At this present time there is no lessor magistrate to organize an insurrection against a government which is operating in a great fashion illegally. To undertake such a venture without a legally empowered magistrate would surely lead to anarchy. The differences between the American war for independence, the french revolution and the Russian revolution must continue to provide a gaze into how one sets to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them. This particular conflict is geographical (urban v rural) it is religious (atheist v theist)and as such it is cultural and economic. It is the sanity of gun owners that is keeping the tenuous peace and it is prima facie that the second amendment is rational and sane even in a day of high capacity magazines.
33 posted on 12/22/2012 5:34:41 PM PST by DaveyB (Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. -John Adams)
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Because we are a reasonable, peaceful people.


38 posted on 12/22/2012 6:34:23 PM PST by Tzimisce (What do you do when every every branch of the government is corrupt and aligned against you?)
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"Why do we not see what goes on in European nations, namely violent public uprisings against governments?"

That's funny.


40 posted on 12/22/2012 6:38:17 PM PST by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of rotten politics smelled around the planet.)
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Joel S. Hirschhorn, libertarian

Joel will be one of the first asking the later question of, "where were the 2nd amendment proponents when we needed them". That's the question Joel won't be able to ask out loud, since he will have lost his freedom of expression, along with his 2nd amendment right. But, I doubt that Joel is libertarian, since a libertarian would be against government intrusion into our lives and into our bill of rights, which includes the 2nd amendment.
42 posted on 12/22/2012 6:41:20 PM PST by adorno (Y)
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The left will run out of handouts before armed Americans run out of guns and ammo. Parasite on left violence will start first. Since the left has nothing to give, there is no reason for armed Americans to go on offense. Lock and load and pass the popcorn. The mutual attrition of parasites and the left means less targets. It’s a lot easier playing defense anyway. Socialism always fails, always.


45 posted on 12/22/2012 6:48:57 PM PST by VRWC For Truth (Roberts has perverted the Constitution)
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This Joel ahole who wrote this crap calls himself a “libertarian?” Seriously?


46 posted on 12/22/2012 6:49:41 PM PST by july4thfreedomfoundation (November 6, 2012.....A day that will live in infamy!)
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Any guns I may own are for my self defense of my family first and for feeding my family second.


47 posted on 12/22/2012 6:58:26 PM PST by Randy Larsen (Aim small, Miss small.)
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Waco.
Ruby Ridge.

Funny how the Feds never tried such things again.


48 posted on 12/22/2012 7:02:51 PM PST by ctdonath2 ($1 meals: http://abuckaplate.blogspot.com)
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Perhaps because they have not started hauling people off to the concentration camps, breaking down front doors to confiscate weapons, and shooting people in the streets yet. Have you noticed uprisings in other parts of the world, espeically the middle east against their oppressors. Yes! Where? In those countries where the people had access to weapons. When people are pushed far enough by the government in this nation, you may very well see it. Dont’ forget, we did have a War of Independence in our history, as well as a Civil War. They both built up over a period of time before the blood spillage began.


49 posted on 12/22/2012 7:08:14 PM PST by evangmlw
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AS USUAL, the inestimable ANNIE COUlTER...GETS IT RIGHT.... IN her latest column she proves beyond a doubt that....that the only policy that ever did and every will protect society from the crazed killer is CONCEALED CARRY. Quoting study after study after study conducted by the equally inestimable JOHN LOTT and WILLIAM LANDES ..."Landes and Lott examined many of the very policies being proposed right now in response to the Connecticut massacre: waiting periods and background checks for guns, the death penalty and increased penalties for committing a crime with a gun. None of these policies had any effect on the frequency of, or carnage from, multiple-victim shootings. (I note that they did not look at reforming our lax mental health laws, presumably because the ACLU is working to keep dangerous nuts on the street in all 50 states.)

ONLY ONE PUBLIC POLICY HAS EVER BEEN SHOWN TO REDUCE THE DEATH RATE FROM SUCH CRIMES: CONCEALED CARRY LAWS."

END OF STORY....

I guess members of the staffs of the gun grabbin congress folks arent as good at researching as the lone, lovely brainy ANN.... What a national treasure!

http://www.anncoulter.com/columns/2012-12-19.html#read_more


50 posted on 12/22/2012 7:19:00 PM PST by jimsin
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We are being goaded by this article - best not to respond.


51 posted on 12/22/2012 7:20:15 PM PST by omni-scientist
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i think the reason for many is that they know force doesn’t convince anyone of your side, and it’ the resort of last choice. most people want to be able to defend themselves, most don’t have guns so that they can go on offense and start a revoluton.


53 posted on 12/22/2012 7:44:34 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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Harry Belfonte says Obama ought to go Third World on us and start governing by dictat.

Maxine Waters says they ought to nationalize the oil companies.

Ed Schultz and Andrew Cuomo say it’s time to confiscate our weapons.

Obama says it’s time to fundamentally transform America, and redistribute all the wealth.

Jamie Foxx says it’s cool to kill all the white people.

Why isn’t Hirschhorn calling for the Left to get on with it?

Fact is it seems evident that both sides ARE making the early moves, getting their troops into position.

I like our chances.


60 posted on 12/22/2012 7:56:14 PM PST by Fightin Whitey
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FOX News is not right wing.

And there is no grand “right-wing” plan to start another civil war.

The left is going to have to start it, as they will eventually. We’ll be waiting with our guns.


64 posted on 12/22/2012 9:06:23 PM PST by <1/1,000,000th%
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Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed.

But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.

65 posted on 12/22/2012 9:31:07 PM PST by RC one (From My Cold Dead Hands.)
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When you decide you can’t take it one minute longer, pick up your gun and go out on your porch. Look to your left, then look to your right. If you’re the only one standing on the porch with a gun in your hand, go back inside.


66 posted on 12/22/2012 10:03:52 PM PST by ccmay (Too much Law; not enough Order.)
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I reject the allegation that firearms and the Second Amendment are objects of “worship.”


67 posted on 12/22/2012 10:20:19 PM PST by Elsiejay
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