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Do You Want Guns in Schools? The NRA Does
BlogHer ^ | December 21, 2012 | Grace Hwang Lynch, News and Politics Editor

Posted on 12/21/2012 3:28:36 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

After a week of what was thought to be respectful, even remorseful, silence on the Sandy Hook Elementary School mass shootings, the NRA took to the podium this morning, with… shall we say, both barrels blazing. National Rifle Association leader Wayne LaPierre addressed the media in Washington D.C. with the message that the only way to keep our children safe is to put armed security guards in schools. From the press conference transcript:

“The only thing that stops a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun.”

(VIDEO AT LINK)

It’s an old message gun advocates have stuck by after mass shootings as far back as the Jewish Community Center day camp killings in 1999. But even armed officers at schools can't always stop gunmen bent on destruction. As Daily Kos reports, there was an armed deputy onsite at Columbine High School, and yet he was not able to stop Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold from opening fire on their classmates.

Polls show that public sentiment has swayed in the past week toward greater restrictions on gun sales, and while the NRA briefing was taking place in the capitol, another gunman went on a shooting spree in Pennsylvania, killing four people -- including a woman decorating a church for a children's Christmas party.

But LaPierre’s words made it clear that for a certain segment of America, the deaths of 26 little kids and teachers is not a rallying cry for unity and reform of gun laws, but rather an incident that’s making them dig their heels in the sand even more.

LaPierre insinuated that others tried to “exploit tragedy for political gain” and that President Obama had not done enough to protect schools. Violence, he insists, is the result of violent video games...

(Excerpt) Read more at blogher.com ...


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KEYWORDS: banglist; guncontrol; gungrabbers; nra; obama; secondamendment
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There are thousands of gun laws already on the books. Didn't stop that 20 year old, did they?
1 posted on 12/21/2012 3:28:47 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I just had a vision of TSA in every school.


2 posted on 12/21/2012 3:32:38 PM PST by maine yankee (I got my Governor at 'Marden's')
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The question should be, Do you want someone coming into our schools with a gun and killing kids because there was no one there with a gun to stop them?


3 posted on 12/21/2012 3:33:56 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (U.S. elections have become nothing but another cheap ripoff of American Idol.)
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To: maine yankee
"I just had a vision of TSA in every school."

More union government workers! It's inevitable. Good call.

4 posted on 12/21/2012 3:36:03 PM PST by gorush (History repeats itself because human nature is static)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Yes, clearly the NRA thinks we should leave guns laying around in schools like Easter eggs.

These leftist fools better get it straight. They can’t have’em! Got it! YOU CAN NOT HAVE THE GUNS!


5 posted on 12/21/2012 3:36:24 PM PST by The Toll
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

More to the point:

“Do you want dead babies in schools? The NRA doesn’t.”


6 posted on 12/21/2012 3:36:34 PM PST by Happy Rain ("Gun free zones are baited fields.")
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To: maine yankee

Just a simple question, If they had trained, armed school personnel at Sandy Hook do believe there would have been more or less deaths? I myself believe there would have been less.


7 posted on 12/21/2012 3:40:43 PM PST by Mastador1
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I would like to have a gun when I am at work- legally there, with option to either open or concealed carry. Throwing myself in front of my students to save them would be heroic but stupid. I want the option of tackling this problem, should it arise, in a way befitting a man- armed, and willing to fight. I doubt it happens, but maybe logic would prevail.


8 posted on 12/21/2012 3:42:34 PM PST by GenXteacher (You have chosen dishonor to avoid war; you shall have war also.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

In Israel they don’t question the need for guns in the schools. They do it for their children because there are terrorist who want to kill them.


9 posted on 12/21/2012 3:45:09 PM PST by jonrick46 (The opium of Communists: other people's money.)
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To: GenXteacher

Brian Williams of NBC News couldn’t wait to slobber over this news.


10 posted on 12/21/2012 3:46:33 PM PST by Ciexyz
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

When I was a boy growing up in the wilderness of the Upper Peninsula of Michigan in the 1950s, we often carried our .22s on the bus and stuck them in the corner of the “cloak room” so we could shoot ground hogs after school. I don’t remember any mass killings although the teachers would beat the tar out of you for misbehaving in class!


11 posted on 12/21/2012 3:47:41 PM PST by Big_Harry (Ecc10:2 "A wise man's heart is at his right hand; but a fool's heart at his left")
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To: The Toll
"Yes, clearly the NRA thinks we should leave guns laying around in schools like Easter eggs.

No! The guns should be holstered like this:

Now why do you suppose the Israelis have to do this?

12 posted on 12/21/2012 3:50:57 PM PST by jonrick46 (The opium of Communists: other people's money.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Seems if the schools decide that an armed trained law enforcement officer is in every school they should be able to do it.

We have armed officers in

Banks and Credit Unions
Sports Stadiums
Court Houses
Hospitals
City and County buildings
Governmental meetings
Airports
Subways
Bus stations

People with common sense have offered free coffee or pizza to law enforcement not so much to obtain favor but because coffee consuming cops reduce potential crime be just being around.

Some jurisdictions park marked cars on roads where speed may be a problem and just the car acts as a reminder to slow down.

Community policing activities would be enhanced with a police officer in the school. In a few years the younger students may develop a trust in law enforcement that I've seen eroded away in my life time.

Maybe a cop in the school could reduce the sale or use of drugs.

I find it difficult to understand how some would think an elementary school child would and could overpower a trained officer, take their weapon and cause mayhem in the school. If that is such a big problem seems the long list of losers who have shot up schools should have been easy work for the children. The shooters were outnumbered and Not trained.

So educators is it about safety or is it about an agenda?

President Obama spoke of trying anything.

Officers in schools sounds like something that could be implemented by the time school restarts in January.

13 posted on 12/21/2012 3:51:46 PM PST by Deepest South
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To: maine yankee

I’d rather see local solutions. Let the individual districts choose to turn their children into prey animals.


14 posted on 12/21/2012 3:52:21 PM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: Big_Harry

Here in southern Michigan we couldn’t carry them on the bus in the 80s but if we drove they could stay in our cars or if a parent brought us they had to stay in the principal’s office.


15 posted on 12/21/2012 3:55:39 PM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: GenXteacher

And therein lies the crux of the matter. Common sense dictates a response to violence in an appropriate manner to be determined by the threat perceived by the intended victim. Yet we allow others to determine whether we may even offer a response other than the cry of a bleating sheep at the slaughter. Your employer dictates your working conditions. If they do not provide what you believe is a sufficient level of safety at the workplace to adequately eliminate threats find a new line of work or demand the ability to provide for your own safety. Of course you could always provide for yourself without their knowledge and risk incarceration. See how complicated things become when we allow others to dictate what we may or may not do to provide for our own well being? RKBA You have it or you don’t. There is no middle ground. The only question to my mind is what you will do when the powers that be deny you weapons with which to defend yourself in your home or anywhere else without their specific approval? Believe me when I say that the powers that be really could care less what you do or do not like. They know best. Just ask them.


16 posted on 12/21/2012 3:58:09 PM PST by chulaivn66 (Semper Fidelis in Extremis)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Why don’t we just make against the law to kill people?


17 posted on 12/21/2012 4:02:37 PM PST by EandH Dad (sleeping giants wake up REALLY grumpy)
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To: Deepest South
President Obama spoke of trying anything.

President Obama has a history of feigning openness to other ideas when he had absolutely no intention of doing anything other that what he already had in mind.

It's just PR.

(actually it's BS)

18 posted on 12/21/2012 4:04:04 PM PST by Washi (Socialism is Slavery)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

TSA (& maybe DHS) needs to be disbanded. They are as far over the top as the commies. Considering Janet Napolitano- they *are* the commies, at least as of now.

Please correct me if I’m wrong, but have there been *any* shooting sprees that did not occur in “Gun Free Zones”?

Laws “do not apply” to either criminals or the criminally insane.

YES, I want principals/ teachers/ security officers heavily armed (”assault weapons” for security personnel & sidearms for the others) AND our schools need 1 way locks on EVERY door. I’m not sure it wouldn’t be a good idea to gate schools with a guard posted, the same way many business, apartment complexes, & subdivisions are.

And for goodness sakes, no signs that say “Sitting Ducks. Have at us”.


19 posted on 12/21/2012 4:04:56 PM PST by KGeorge (- Proud member of "Nazis" for Newt /Sarcasm)
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To: Deepest South

You also have them in high-end jewelry stores casinos, and certain pawn shops!

But schools? THAT”S NUTS!!!!!


20 posted on 12/21/2012 4:04:56 PM PST by VanDeKoik
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