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Religious bigotism is very, very dangerous for conservatives.
***Except that what is going on here isn’t religious bigotism (bigotry). When Jesus confronted false teachers in His day he called them ‘vipers’ and ‘Sons of the Devil’. Was Jesus a bigot when He did that?


4,191 posted on 08/16/2012 7:15:50 AM PDT by Kevmo ( FRINAGOPWIASS: Free Republic Is Not A GOP Website. It's A Socon Site.)
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To: Kevmo
Religious bigotism is very, very dangerous for conservatives.

Oh, the whining and crying about "bigotry" from mormons and mormon defenders....when for 180 years the mormon church, its leaders and members have been preaching hatred against Christianity and claiming to be the "one true and living church on the face of the earth"....I guess some of these mormonism defenders are not aware that their own denomination is and has been scorned in temple rituals and chapel sermons by hundreds of thousands of mormons, including Mitt Romney who took part in these rituals prior to 1990..

Mormon temple ceremony

From the above link:

"The ceremony includes a type of melodrama which explains the LDS view of the creation and fall of man. In the past these dramas were acted out by Mormon temple workers playing such parts as that of Elohim (God the Father) , Jehovah (Jesus), Lucifer, etc. Today, most temples utilize video, making live actors no longer necessary.

Mormon Apostle John Widtsoe stated, "Joseph Smith received the temple endowment and its ritual, as all else he promulgated, by revelation from God" (Joseph Smith - Seeker After Truth, pg. 249). Because of this, Mormons have been told that it can never change. Royden Derrick, a Mormon Seventy, wrote, "Temple ordinances instituted in the heavens before the foundation of the world are for the salvation and exaltation of God's children. It is important that the saving ordinances not be altered or changed, because all of those who will be exalted, from the first man, Adam, to the last, must be saved on the same principles" (Temples in the Last Days, 1987, pg. 36). However, in April of 1990, the ceremony did go through some dramatic revisions, including the portion where Lucifer hires a minister to preach what Mormons view as false doctrine (termed "the orthodox religion" in the ceremony). The pastor is first interviewed by Lucifer who asks him if he has "been to college and received training for the ministry." Lucifer tells the pastor that if he is able to convert people to his "orthodox religion," he will pay him well. Lucifer then takes the preacher to two characters portraying "Adam and Eve" and tells him they "desire religion." The preacher tries to convince Adam to believe in a God who fills the universe, yet is so small that he can dwell in a person's heart, and a God that is surrounded by a myriad of beings who have been saved by grace. He also tries to convince Adam of the perils of hell, "a lake of fire and brimstone where the wicked are cast." Adam, the "good guy" in the scenario, rejects his teachings. Of course this is intended to make Christian pastors to look like hirelings of Satan bent on convincing God's children to believe in a false gospel. Such a scene was highly offensive to Christians as well as to many Mormons. Today, all mention of this minister has been dropped entirely from the ceremony."

Did Mitt find "Such a scene highly offensive" ?? We do not know, but he certainly took part in this ritual prior to 1990, including during his wedding ceremony to Ann!

Today, 52,000 mormon missionaries spread out over the world claiming to Christians that their Christian faith is bogus, and salvation can be reached ONLY by taking part in rituals in the mormon temple....Folks, THAT is "bigotry".

4,196 posted on 08/16/2012 7:47:05 AM PDT by greyfoxx39 (Tell the 52,000 mormon missionaries to stop going worldwide proclaiming Christianity to be false.)
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To: Kevmo
***Except that what is going on here isn’t religious bigotism (bigotry).

Half of it is; not from the side that the bigots CLAIM, though.

4,209 posted on 08/16/2012 8:03:02 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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