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Ryan is a good man, but does not redeem the abortionist/homosexualist statist Romney
Aug 11, 2012 | Jim Robinson

Posted on 08/11/2012 4:42:48 PM PDT by Jim Robinson

Except for his unfortunate go along to get along support of TARP, bailouts, stimulus spending and the increased credit limit, etc, Ryan is a pretty good choice. Probably the best choice of the RINOS that were on Romney's short list. I support Ryan for the vice presidency. Wish he were at the top of the ticket, though.

But I still cannot and will not support the grand father of ObamaCare. Romney still loves and brags about his bastard brainchild, RomneyCare, even today when he knows what an anti-liberty socialist POS it is.

And the fact that he advocated that abortion should be safe and legal in America for over three decades of his adult lifetime and even advocated that Roe v Wade should be supported and sustained as settled law precludes any consideration whatsoever by this pro-life Christian for Myth Romney for the presidency.

And the fact that he boasted that he would be better for "gay rights" than Ted Kennedy, and proved it just increases my resistance.

That, and his penchant for gun control, his continuing support for global warming, gays in the scouts, gays in the military, and his record of appointing liberal judges makes it all but impossible for me to support him.

Lastly, we're having a bit of changeover on our moderator staff. At least two moderators resigned this afternoon after I flatly refused to rein in a so-called anti-Mormon "bigot" on FR. Well, if being in opposition to false prophets and false prophecy makes a Christian believer a bigot, then I guess I'm a bigot. I've posted before that I flat do not believe that the Book of Mormon is the true word of God. Nor do I believe that Joseph Smith was a prophet of God. The Christian bible warns us to be weary of false prophets and that I am. Romney being the presumptive Republican nominee does not change that fact.


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To: Jim Robinson; colorcountry; greyfoxx39; SZonian; delacoert

Thanks to all of you for your kind words and support!


4,141 posted on 08/15/2012 8:28:40 PM PDT by Religion Moderator
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To: Kevmo
But when one is constantly forced to defend themselves .... there is not much time for anything else; is there?

That's just what they want you to do; waste time on a fool's errand.

They don't CARE if they are proven wrong about their false accusations, as most folks are so lazy they won't go back to see if the accusations have any merit.

Let 'em rave; I'll still post the message of TRUTH.

4,143 posted on 08/15/2012 8:58:04 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Deb
FYI: My first question about Mormonism on one of your sweet, happy threads, was met with an avalanche of name-calling and personal attacks.

Info is good!

I'd like to SEE this 'first question' for myself, to make sure it was not of the "Are you still beating your wife?" category that occurs in these threads.

4,144 posted on 08/15/2012 9:01:13 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: sf4dubya

Those are not facts.
***Yes, they are FACTS. It is a FACT that Christopher Columbus sailed the ocean & returned from the new world in 1492, regardless of how you FEEL about that fact. It is also a FACT that Jesus claimed to be God Himself before the sanhedrin and was put to death for that claim. Regardless of how you FEEL about that fact.

what difference does it make if Messiah comes and you think he his JC’s second coming and Jews think it is the first time? Same end result.
***Fascinating. What if you die beforehand, without accepting Jesus as Messiah and also as God & Savior? Your own scriptures in Genesis 49:12 tell you that Messiah has already come. Your sould is not “ fully taken care of.”


4,145 posted on 08/15/2012 9:03:29 PM PDT by Kevmo ( FRINAGOPWIASS: Free Republic Is Not A GOP Website. It's A Socon Site.)
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To: Kevmo
If Romney had an unmistakable pro-life record, Pro-family, Pro-Military, Pro-America, Pro-borders, etc. then there would be very few pouring scorn on him.

Yup, no scorn on him at all; other than being deceived by a pair of Satanic demons or a lying conman.

Pick one.

4,146 posted on 08/15/2012 9:05:59 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: greyfoxx39

GMTA


4,147 posted on 08/15/2012 9:06:29 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Sola Veritas

You will note, should they get Romney elected, they will be the ones to scream the loudest when he screws up. So, watch and wait. It will be interesting.
***We saw a small scale of that when there were a bunch of freepers who disrespected Tom McClintock vs Schwarzenegger in the recall election. I believe I only saw one freeper actually apologize for it and say he’d never vote for a RINO again. The rest are probably still here, pushing for RINOs.


4,148 posted on 08/15/2012 9:07:09 PM PDT by Kevmo ( FRINAGOPWIASS: Free Republic Is Not A GOP Website. It's A Socon Site.)
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Amazing how many Mormonism defenders there are and how few if any of them know anything about Mormonism.
PM


4,149 posted on 08/15/2012 9:09:01 PM PDT by roylene (Salvation the great Gift of Grace.)
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To: Deb
Yeah, right. I'm gonna go hunting for my first post to the ex-Mormons because you don't believe me.

Approximately when?

You've been here a LONG time.If you asked this question WAY back; perhaps your rememberer is a bit fuzzy.

I wonder how far back the

InForum
searches...
4,150 posted on 08/15/2012 9:11:04 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie; SZonian

That’s just what they want you to do
***The point that Szonian was making was how difficult it is to operate as a freeper when there’s a ‘mole’ operating against you. Apparently it was noticeable.


4,151 posted on 08/15/2012 9:13:29 PM PDT by Kevmo ( FRINAGOPWIASS: Free Republic Is Not A GOP Website. It's A Socon Site.)
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To: Elsie

So, you’d be one of them. I get that. At this point I don’t know if I’d be one. I don’t have to answer that because he’s such a friggin librul.


4,152 posted on 08/15/2012 9:17:08 PM PDT by Kevmo ( FRINAGOPWIASS: Free Republic Is Not A GOP Website. It's A Socon Site.)
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To: SZonian
moderator made it his personal mission to “punish” FReepers,

What? This is a joke, right?

4,153 posted on 08/15/2012 9:17:55 PM PDT by roylene (Salvation the great Gift of Grace.)
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To: Sola Veritas

Yup, if I had signed up 4 days earlier, I’d have a 3 digit Freeper number. I lurked too long... ;-)

I’m not even sure we can access our freeper number any more.


4,154 posted on 08/15/2012 9:20:38 PM PDT by Kevmo ( FRINAGOPWIASS: Free Republic Is Not A GOP Website. It's A Socon Site.)
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To: Jim Robinson

Mr. Robinson, I have the utmost respect for you and admire your steadfast stance. I love your site and have contributed in the past.

The only thing I might suggest is that you post up front that your vote “doesn’t matter” in your opinion. Don’t bury that statement deeply within the thread. You are a very influential person and many follow you. Some in “deeply blue states” agree and I respect that. Perhaps they should put that in their tagline before they hammer people in swing states.

I don’t believe that most on this site are happy with Romney (myself included). The Guliani purge happened during the primaries as I recall. The primaries are over. I hate the outcome as deeply as you do.

I’m pretty sure your response will be, it doesn’t matter. Actually it does. I live in a pretty red state and will fight to keep it so.

This thread is very evident of what is happening on this site. You can be discussing eating mashed potatoes and all of a sudden you are da**ned to he!! for doing so. If this is what you want, then it is happening. I can’t believe that this is what you want for FR.


4,155 posted on 08/15/2012 9:25:13 PM PDT by berdie
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To: roylene

No joke, follow the thread back to

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/backroom/2917406/posts?page=3976#3976


4,156 posted on 08/15/2012 9:26:22 PM PDT by Kevmo ( FRINAGOPWIASS: Free Republic Is Not A GOP Website. It's A Socon Site.)
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To: Kevmo

Here’s our first step in identifying real conservatives. If they agree with this, and if their political actions consistently line up with it, they’re really good prospects.

http://www.selfgovernment.us/be-a-leader.html

It’s only a first step though. We’re never going to get anywhere until we absolutely require accountability for ALL leaders.


4,157 posted on 08/15/2012 9:31:56 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (The saving of America starts the day conservatives stop supporting what they say they hate.)
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To: is_is
 
 
your arrogance is not really appealing enough to entice me to go back and re post in-order to have anymore discussion with you......you are a shining light for Christianity...../sarcasam
 

  • ///// Remember what the scripture says....”be wise as serpents”....

    and...

    2 John 1:10
    If anyone comes to you and does not bring this teaching, do not take him into your house or welcome him.

    SURELY this would include, “Do NOT make him your leader to rule over you.” as well; right? /////

    by not voting or voting 3rd party you insure that you make Obama “your leader to rule over you. as well; right”?
    my god......we are under the leadership of false teachings everyday.....our kids at school....or bosses....you can go on and on......we recognize it and move forward in our faith......
    again....we are not electing church elders.....
    these men are our choices like it or not.....how can one hand it to the one dedicated to destroying your country??????
    had Daniel shunned Nebuchadnezzar the story would have been much different but.....he worked within the system he found himself and never gave up his faith.....

4,158 posted on 08/15/2012 9:33:42 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Sola Veritas

I agree with you that many of the original FReepers were probably more GOP loyalists than true conservatives (meaning to hold to all three legs of conservatism - SOCONism, NATDEFism, and Fiscalism).
***I didn’t see that at all. They were invariably true conservatives. It was a small website. The republican loyalists didn’t start showing up until the 2000 election.


4,159 posted on 08/15/2012 9:35:29 PM PDT by Kevmo ( FRINAGOPWIASS: Free Republic Is Not A GOP Website. It's A Socon Site.)
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To: is_is
your arrogance is not really appealing enough to entice me to go back and re post in-order to have anymore discussion with you......

My 'arrogance' was motived by a statement that I should address your comments.

And was ratcheted upward by complaining that I had REFUSED to answer.


4,160 posted on 08/15/2012 9:36:15 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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