Posted on 08/11/2012 4:42:48 PM PDT by Jim Robinson
Except for his unfortunate go along to get along support of TARP, bailouts, stimulus spending and the increased credit limit, etc, Ryan is a pretty good choice. Probably the best choice of the RINOS that were on Romney's short list. I support Ryan for the vice presidency. Wish he were at the top of the ticket, though.
But I still cannot and will not support the grand father of ObamaCare. Romney still loves and brags about his bastard brainchild, RomneyCare, even today when he knows what an anti-liberty socialist POS it is.
And the fact that he advocated that abortion should be safe and legal in America for over three decades of his adult lifetime and even advocated that Roe v Wade should be supported and sustained as settled law precludes any consideration whatsoever by this pro-life Christian for Myth Romney for the presidency.
And the fact that he boasted that he would be better for "gay rights" than Ted Kennedy, and proved it just increases my resistance.
That, and his penchant for gun control, his continuing support for global warming, gays in the scouts, gays in the military, and his record of appointing liberal judges makes it all but impossible for me to support him.
Lastly, we're having a bit of changeover on our moderator staff. At least two moderators resigned this afternoon after I flatly refused to rein in a so-called anti-Mormon "bigot" on FR. Well, if being in opposition to false prophets and false prophecy makes a Christian believer a bigot, then I guess I'm a bigot. I've posted before that I flat do not believe that the Book of Mormon is the true word of God. Nor do I believe that Joseph Smith was a prophet of God. The Christian bible warns us to be weary of false prophets and that I am. Romney being the presumptive Republican nominee does not change that fact.
Is there a reason you chose to ignore post 2465?
Here it is again
Norm Lenhart to nicmarlo
Lets give this one last attempt.
Do you end homosexual power by empowering homosexuals?
Do you win a war by arming the enemy you are fighting?
Do you stop bigotry by making bigoted statements?
Do you end abortion by electing a man good with ROE as settled law?
Do you support the 2A by electing a gun grabber with a record of gun grabbing?
If you can answer any of these ‘Yes’ then we have nothing further to discuss. If you cannot, your vote for Romney is pure stupidity.
Joseph Smith lied about what he was doing for years, all before he had the "revelation" that purported to justify (retroactively) his misconduct. Obviously, he created a nightmare for his original wife, Emma Smith. Here's a short video regarding the pathetic story of poor Emma.
Joseph Smith's successor, Bringem Young, then had some 55 "wives" (victims) of his own. Many of the women involved were really just little girls. Today, these founders would be receiving sentences of hundreds of years in prison.
So, how can anyone take this "religion" seriously once they learn how it all began and why it was felt necessary to create this whole new religion?
People often think of Christian morality as a kind of bargain in which God says, "If you keep a lot of rules I'll reward you, and if you don't I'll do the other thing." I do not think that is the best way of looking at it. I would much rather say that every time you make a choice you are turning the central part of you, the part of you that chooses, into something a little different from what it was before. And taking your life as a whole, with all your innumerable choices, all your life long you are slowly turning this central thing either into a heavenly creature or into a hellish creature: either into a creature that is in harmony with God, and with other creatures, and with itself, or else into one that is in a state of war and hatred with God, and with its fellow-creatures, and with itself. To be the one kind of creature is heaven: that is, it is joy and peace and knowledge and power. To be the other means madness, horror, idiocy, rage, impotence, and eternal loneliness. Each of us at each moment is progressing to the one state or the other."Christ said in Matthew 5:C. S. Lewis, Mere Christianity
43 Ye have heard that it was said, Thou shalt love thy neighbor, and hate thine enemy:You haughtily proclaim you are more of a conservative and a better Christian than all the posters to whom you are telling to leave this site.44 but I say unto you, love your enemies, and pray for them that persecute you;
45 that ye may be sons of your Father who is in heaven: for he maketh his sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sendeth rain on the just and the unjust.
46 For if ye love them that love you, what reward have ye? do not even the publicans the same?
47 And if ye salute your brethren only, what do ye more than others? do not even the Gentiles the same?
48 Ye therefore shall be perfect, as your heavenly Father is perfect.
You behaviors do not exemplify Christ's teachings, nor do your word or actions. Not even close.
No; He did not.
He did not WITNESS the sin.
Deuteronomy 19:15
A single witness shall not suffice against a person for any crime or for any wrong in connection with any offense that he has committed. Only on the evidence of two witnesses or of three witnesses shall a charge be established.
I think we've actually found a possible contender, however... elsewhere on this very thread! ;)
Earlier, one of the more insufferably pompous and self-adoring trolls hereabouts self-identifies (truthfully or otherwise) as being "Almost as old as your 'Miss Desmond'"; a woman in her mid-50s, in the immortal Sunset Boulevard.
A mere few posts later, however, said wankmeister then claims, simultaneously, to be "in [my] 80s."
What we have here, in other words, is either what the kids nowadays refer to (or so I'm told, at any rate) as "a lying sack"... or else, the poor, fumbling, fuddled dear is suffering from the most hideously accelerated case of Progeria in all the recorded annals of medical history. ;)
Watch how you bandy that coot about!
Christ is God.
He witnesses ALL things.
*Sniff*
I love you, man!! :)
You behaviors do not exemplify Christ’s teachings, nor do your word or actions. Not even close.
***Nor do yours. Do you condemn Paul and Peter for confronting the heresies they ran into in their day?
“I am trying here to prevent anyone saying the really foolish thing that people often say about Him: “I’m ready to accept Jesus as a great moral teacher, but I don’t accept His claim to be God.” That is the one thing we must not say. A man who said the sort of things Jesus said would not be a great moral teacher. He would either be a lunatic — on a level with the man who says he is a poached egg — or else he would be the Devil of Hell. You must make your choice. Either this man was, and is, the Son of God: or else a madman or something worse. You can shut Him up for a fool, you can spit at Him and kill Him as a demon; or you can fall at His feet and call Him Lord and God. But let us not come with any patronizing nonsense about His being a great human teacher. He has not left that open to us. He did not intend to.”
CS Lewis
Some are. But many are found in the Christian churches and also right here on this thread.
Well that’s vague enough to suit me. What?
You aren’t even worthy to call yourself an apprentice of either Paul or Peter.
they are. I have seen dozens leave in just the past few days.
***Speaking of a spirit of discord and ugliness that does not exemplify Christ, why don’t you back up this statement? It is a lie.
JESUS: Hey Smith! Remember that boast you made about doing more than even I had done to hold the 'church' together?
JOSEPH SMITH: Where am I?
JESUS: Don't you remember? A few seconds ago you were in that jail.
JOSEPH SMITH: Oh; yeah; but where am I NOW?
JESUS: Don't you remember? Does bang - bang ring a bell?
JOSEPH SMITH: Oh; yeah - that crummy gun I had was about USELESS!
JESUS: I hope you left instructions on how to hold your church together.
JOSEPH SMITH: Dang! I knew there was SOMETHING I was forgetting!
JESUS: Looks like there's a power struggle going on down there.
JOSEPH SMITH: Yeah; there was always SOMEone who wanted the power that I held - especially over the LADIES - wink wink.
JESUS: No need to worry about that now; remember what my friend Matthew wrote down?
JOSEPH SMITH: This? “At the resurrection people will neither marry nor be given in marriage; they will be like the angels in heaven” (Matthew 22:30)
JESUS: That's it.
JOSEPH SMITH: I thought that was mistranslated.
JESUS: Nah - it was right.
JOSEPH SMITH: Oh well; it was fun while it lasted. My buds will still get it on with the girls.
JESUS: Uh; I'm sorry; in just a few more years; your followers will cavein to the United States government and abandon the 'Eternal Covenant' that you came up with.
JOSEPH SMITH: ME!? YOU are the one that told me to do that!
JESUS: Sorry; but you must have mistranslated what I told you. What part of Do NOT commit ADULTERY did you not understand?
JOSEPH SMITH: mumble....
JESUS: What did you say?
JOSEPH SMITH: Oh, nothing.
JESUS: Well; it was interesting talking to you; but now I must get back to perparing a place for those who believe in Me.
JOSEPH SMITH: Oh, yeah; the Celestial Kingdom.
JESUS: No...
JOSEPH SMITH: The Telestial one?
JESUS: Nope.
JOSEPH SMITH: SUREly not the TERRESTRIAL one!!
JESUS: Nope. Didn't you read that the mind of man had NOT conceived of it? Paul wrote it down in 1 Corinthians 2:9.
JOSEPH SMITH: I thought that was mistranslated.
JESUS: No; it wasn't.
JOSEPH SMITH: You SURE?
JESUS: Yes. Now I must be going: what did you say your name was again?
JOSEPH SMITH: Joseph Smith.
JESUS: Hmmmm. According to my Heavenly FAITHbook, you didn't sign in as one of my friends - sorry, I never knew you.
JOSEPH SMITH: But....
Oh no! We missed the ceremony where you were placed in charge of Tap Outs!
You aren’t even worthy to call yourself an apprentice of either Paul or Peter.
***I’m not. I’m a follower of Christ. Why don’t you answer the questions put to you? Oh, I know: it’s because you intend to continue sowing discord among conservatives on this conservative website. Obama thanks you for your efforts at dismaying conservatives.
You know something? An actual miracle could occur and Romney could go on to save the planet from itself. But that would pale to what he has already accomplished. He has caused people to abandon their long held positions, go 100% against everything they ever posted, lie to the faces (virtually speaking) of their fellow posters...
And consider themselves saviors of the Republic for the failures of their personal integrity.
Over these threads I have made a number of offers to these troglidytes that if they could answer some very basic questions, I’d vote Romney. Not one has done so. Not one. They have ranted, raved and built strawmen that would be the star attraction at the Burning Man frstival.
But not a single one can do it. They all resort to the same cowardice that men like Reagan, Washington, JQ Adams and the other founders condemned in both word and deed.
And they, in the assless chaps of their morality, take PRIDE in twisting everything “America” ever was.
If they are so intent on defining “America” as a place where homos are free to pot anal sex over everything, sacrificing the safety of kids to ‘gay adoption’, grabbing guns, compromise with Dems and so on and onandonandonandon by electing a man who wants that, their “America” can burn.
And they can burn with it. I hope they get EXACTLY what they vote for. They are what their actions define them as.
Backing up my statement that you are a spirit of discord and ugliness who does not exemplify Christ not only throughout this thread but......throughout FR: KEVMO.
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