Syncro replied:
1) Not all of them, but their take is the same of many of them.
Not in Wisconsin and not on the TEA Party Express' decision to endorse Mark Neumann. LouD posted multiple press releases above that document that they are NOT on the same page. In fact, as TEA Party Express has continued to ratchet up their unwelcome intrusion into Wisconsin politics, Wisconsin conservative talk radio hosts are reporting that local TEA Party groups are extremely disappointed and even angry at the TEA Party Express. It's quite possible that TEA Party Express' clumsy and ham-handed intrusion will create a backlash against Mark Neumann among local conservatives.
I posted:
2) the national TEA Party Express group has made NO contacts to confer with local Wisconsin Tea Party Groups to determine whom Wisconsin conservatives would prefer to support,
Syncro replied:
2) Blatently untrue, of course they have
Not according to some of the local TEA Party press releases posted by LouD OR reports by local conservative radio talk show hosts.
I posted:
3) no Wisconsin TEA Party groups support Neumann,
Syncro replied:
3)LOL of course they do. Bear in mind the tea party is made of of individuals, not like a union where when a “leader” endorses someone everyone must fall in line.
What part of the press releases from the local TEA groups that explicitly say "our organizations DO NOT endorse any candidate in the primary" did you not understand?
I posted:
4) no Wisconsin TEA Party group leaders have endorsed Neumann individually.
Syncro replied:
4) Group leaders should not endorese unless all of their members would make the same endorsement. Every tea party member is a leader of the TPM.
Then why did California-based TEA Party Express make an endorsement in the Wisconsin primary? Your stated response in #4 is exactly why Wisconsin FReepers are so angry at you and your group's actions!!!!!
Geeze, now we are pimps!
Well, yes. When you repeadtely post TPX press releases that include fundraising solicitations you are "pimping" for TPX.
Funny, you have no problem with posters from other states posting about WI. If they agree with you it’s alright? Double standard.
Nope. As stated above, my issue with your actions are based on YOUR hyoocrisy. If every tea party member is a leader of the TPM and the group or group leaders should not endorese unless all of their members would make the same endorsement, why did TPX choose Neumann when 2 candidates (Hovde & Fitzgerald) with more and better conservative bona fides are in the race?
So where are my attacks calling you guys pimps and flacks? Seems like it is you guys that are calling me disgusting names.>/i>
Not true. I've already addressed your "pimping" for TPX above. And I didn't call you a flack, I asked if you were a paid or volunteer flack for TPX. It's OK to be a flack. It's not OK to be a flack and not admit it.
What YOU have repeatedly done throughout this thread is to call anyone who disagrees with you a "liar." I don't know how things are in California, but those of us from Wisconsin consider being called a liar to be just about the worst thing you can say about a person.
Oh great, another group of posters that send private mail messages to gang up on me. Weak.
My God, you are paranoid. No one is out to get you!
All anyone has asked from you is to show a little respect or deference to Wisconsin FReepers AND/OR to make the argument as to why you choose to support Neumann ahead of 3 other reasonably conservative and qualified candidates.
Saying that you've talked to one person or a hundred people who like Neumann is not a reasoned argument. I feel like I'm asking Sir Ignatius Gumby why he thinks the Battle of Tralfalgar was fought on dry land.
Press releases are fine, but I like talking to the WI folks. They are a good group of people, and I have seen literally hundreds of them this week that support Neumann.
And in my discussions with hundreds of Wisconsin voters, I have tried to disuade the handful who have said they intend to vote for Neumann. When I remind them of all the crap Neumann has pulled in the last few years, remind them of Neumann's 4 defeats for public office, remind them of Neumann's refusal to run for Senate in the last 4 election cycles, and remind them of the superior backgrounds and in-state endorsements of the other 3 candidates, I have almost always changed their intended vote.
That is the problem with voters that don’t often have the time to research the history of a given candidate. Neumann may talk a good game, but once they learn of his 20 years as an active office-seeker and his losing record, it’ll give most serious voters pause. He’s closer to the disastrous Sharron Angle in Nevada, who lost two prior winnable races and badly divided the state GOP with her antics.
Folks need to remember that even though Tammy Baldwin is a certifiable moonbat, she’s been in office continuously for almost 27 years and has NEVER lost a race in her rise up from parochial office (and she has faced some strong and credible opponents). Neumann remains the one candidate who could keep Baldwin’s winning record intact.
Good work, keep at it. Another poll shows a close 3-way race with Fitz bring up the rear. We need to win this seat. Look at what Ryan got in that CD compared to Neumann. No room for weakness.