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Expert: Obama doc is 'proof' – of fraud
World Net Daily ^ | June 7, 2011 | Jerome R. Corsi

Posted on 06/07/2011 6:45:09 PM PDT by conservativegramma

Typeface analysis shows images come from different machines

The online image of a Hawaiian "Certificate of Live Birth" was trumpeted by the White House when it was released on April 27 as "proof positive" that Barack Obama was born in Hawaii.

Now an expert in typefaces and typography says it sure was "proof," but not of what the White House would have wanted.

Paul Irey, a retired professional typographer with 50 years experience in his business, has says an analysis of the typefaces used in the Barack Obama's long-form birth certificate that the White House released on April 27 reveals it absolutely to be a forgery.

"My analysis proves beyond a doubt that it would be impossible for the different letters that appear in the Obama birth certificate to have been typed by one typewriter," Irey told WND.

"Typewriters in 1961 could not change the size and shape of a letter on the fly like that," he said. "This document is definitely a forgery."

Irey acknowledges that an IBM Selectric typewriter could have produced different typefaces in a given document, but only if the Selectric ball was changed every time a different typeface letter was struck which would be unlikely to have been done to produce the word "Student," for example, that had two different styles of the lower case "t."

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TOPICS: Heated Discussion
KEYWORDS: betrayed; birthcertificate; birther; certificate; certifigate; corsi; eligibility; hopespringseternal; lucyhazfootball; naturalborncitizen; obama; thistimeforsure; wnd
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To: Brown Deer

Definitely a forgery. Closely examine the word “Was.” The “W” is all squiggly looking. The “a” is deformed. The “s” is only recognizable because we know it has to be there. The right line of the third box doesn’t match the right lines of the first two. In fact, all the lines of the three boxes are different in some regard. The “T” in twin doesn’t match the “T” in triplet. Definitely something wrong with the “r” and “l” in triplet. Must be a different font face. The comma is suspect. And the letter “i” is used several times and they are all different sizes. The “r” in born runs into the “n.” Must be kerneled and you can’t do that on a sixties typewriter. Almost all of the letters printed in this sample are in different font faces. That’s it. You convinced me. Obama is a master forger.


481 posted on 06/08/2011 7:17:44 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Rebellion is brewing!! Impeach the corrupt Marxist bastard!!)
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To: wintertime
We're talking about pre-air conditioning hot, muggy Hawaii versus Ohio.

Totally different situations and cultures. In Honolulu it is currently 82 degrees, with 56% humidity, and 24 MPH wind.

WOW!

Contrast that with the throbbing heart of beautiful downtown Springfield VA ~ 87 degrees, with 65% humidity, and 3 MPH wind.

Tomorrow it's 82 in Honolulu and Springfield it's 99.

See what I mean? Different!

482 posted on 06/08/2011 7:18:29 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: TigersEye

I was simply responding to your desire to call me an “anti-birther troll.”


483 posted on 06/08/2011 7:22:23 PM PDT by Jeff Winston
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To: Brown Deer

Clintoon was a flat out liar and finally admitted it. Nixon refused to burn the tapes so they eventually burned him. No doubt Obama is a master liar, but he’ll never admit it. And he didn’t burn the microfiche (as far as I know) so if he did change the info on his copy of the birth certificate, he’ll get burned, too. I’m sure the Washington Post will get right on it.


484 posted on 06/08/2011 7:25:03 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Rebellion is brewing!! Impeach the corrupt Marxist bastard!!)
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To: Brown Deer

But if the Washington Post turns down the job, we can always count on Corsi and Alex Jones to get it done.


485 posted on 06/08/2011 7:26:36 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Rebellion is brewing!! Impeach the corrupt Marxist bastard!!)
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To: Jim Robinson

ROTFL!


486 posted on 06/08/2011 7:32:33 PM PDT by Jeff Winston
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To: Jim Robinson
The document as presented is fraudulent, but that doesn't make it a forgery since the document present was not presented directly by the state of Hawaii.

If it is fraudulent, that is not the fault of the state of Hawaii and to intervene and assert that it is not what the state presented to barry the bass turd would be a violation of barry's protected rights unless the state is subpoenaed to testify regarding what they released from files in Hawaii.

The only way there could be a forgery is if someone in the state of Hawaii knowingly generated a false birth record for barry different from what may or may not be on file in Hawaii. Anomalies like the very different clearly represented capital "K's" are indication that more than one typewriter was used to produce the lettering, which may then have been lifted and placed onto a third 'document' in order to fill spaces erased from an earlier document having data the perpetrator of the fraud wished to hide from the populace.

I wonder sometimes if the old WU identity fakers were pressed back into service to fabricate a replaement for what was sent from Hawaii because there were things on the docuemtn from Hawaii that barry the bass turd did not want known, for whatever reasons he has in that regard. Bernadette isn't the brightest bulb in a pack and she probably has not kept up with nuances of type and texts and fonts over the years.

I have no idea how one could put out an ad for a top-notched fabricator of documents while residing in the Oval Orifice, insulting our troops and close allies, bowing to mooselimb kings and Princes, funding terrorist orgs like Hamas and the Muslim Brotherhood, and playing golf dilligently. Barry may have had to take what help he could recruit from the ranks of sycophancy he now employs.

487 posted on 06/08/2011 7:36:28 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Some, believing they can't be deceived, it's nigh impossible to convince them when they're deceived.)
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To: Jeff Winston

I’m sure you think that was special too! lol


488 posted on 06/08/2011 7:38:33 PM PDT by TigersEye (Who crashed the markets on 9/15/08 and why?)
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To: Longbow1969
You've gotta be kidding right? The echo chamber group think demonstrated by the birthers on these threads is astonishing.

IOWs you can rattle on and on for paragraph after paragraph about how superior you are but you can't come up with one sentence that addresses the topic of different typefaces. LOL

489 posted on 06/08/2011 7:42:48 PM PDT by TigersEye (Who crashed the markets on 9/15/08 and why?)
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To: MHGinTN

B/S. An anomaly is an anomaly, not an indication of tampering.

And if Barry the basturd presents an obviously falsified document that was originally certified by the State of Hawaii, then he has no protected rights that the State of Hawaii would be bound by.

The conspiracy is incredible.


490 posted on 06/08/2011 7:47:38 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Rebellion is brewing!! Impeach the corrupt Marxist bastard!!)
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To: Jim Robinson
To me it is like saying 0bama conspired with the Treasury to print $100 bills. You might convince me of that. But to attempt to simultaneously convince me that the resulting $100 bills are ‘obviously’ counterfeit is mind-boggling.
491 posted on 06/08/2011 7:55:30 PM PDT by allmendream (Tea Party did not send the GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism.)
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To: TigersEye

Can you identify the different typefaces to back up your claim.


492 posted on 06/08/2011 7:58:46 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Rebellion is brewing!! Impeach the corrupt Marxist bastard!!)
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To: justiceseeker93; AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; ...

Thanks justiceseeker93.


493 posted on 06/08/2011 8:10:26 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Thanks Cincinna for this link -- http://www.friendsofitamar.org)
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To: Jim Robinson

What was presented on April 27th did not have an Hawaiian embossed seal on it, so it would not be forgery of an official document. The emperor walked naked down the street and no one dared speak up, except one incredulous at the spectacle. The subPreme court doesn’t want to address the issue of NBC, as revealed by Justice Thomas. The republicant’s don’t want to touch the issue for fear the media will do something similar to what you’re doing now, ridiculing those asking questions. And of course the democraps don’t want to touch the issue because barry bass turd is their empowerment scheme to start with! The state of Hawaii has no doubt numerous names on their birth records who were not actually born citizens of Hawaii, as the Sun Yat Sen LFBC granted by Hawaii shows. If it is conspiratorial to believe that liberals will lie and deceive and dissemble to protect one another, then yes, the conspiracy really is in credible.


494 posted on 06/08/2011 8:16:01 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Some, believing they can't be deceived, it's nigh impossible to convince them when they're deceived.)
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To: Jim Robinson

I am only going by what Irey said about typefaces and the graphics he presented. Can you rebut his analysis of different typefaces?


495 posted on 06/08/2011 8:24:56 PM PDT by TigersEye (Who crashed the markets on 9/15/08 and why?)
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To: TigersEye
IOWs you can rattle on and on for paragraph after paragraph about how superior you are but you can't come up with one sentence that addresses the topic of different typefaces. LOL

Your over analyzing a scanned document to death and assimilating every little smudge into a complex, nonsensical web of conspiracy. First it was layers, then smiley faces, now typefaces, tomorrow WND will probably have some new "expert" claiming another fantastic piece of the conspiracy and Farah will confidently predict it means the end of the Obama regime. You've got Corsi on The Alex "conspiracy central" Jones show claiming Donald Trump is supposedly in on it. Some birthers are claiming no one will cover this because of some massive, yet secret, camapign of threats being waged against...well...everyone. Other birthers, including one guy here on FR that posts NBC spam on what seems like every single thread, claims none of it matters anyway because Hussein isn't a NBC. How do you expect anyone to take any of this seriously?

Here is your problem - NO prosecutors, courts, law enforcement agencies, conservative politicians, conservative commentators etc, buy any of this stuff. None of this supposed "evidence" is good enough to even peak the interest of all manner of folks who DETEST Hussein. Obama is an anti-business, socialist who has enemies all over the place who'd love nothing more than to have actual evidence that could bring him down, but what you guys are cranking out is just not persuasive - I mean none of it. At no level do any of the birther claims hold up enough to be taken seriously be anyone that matters.

496 posted on 06/08/2011 8:31:48 PM PDT by Longbow1969
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To: TigersEye

In the exhibits posted on the first page of this thread (reply 21) I see only examples of deformed letters, not letters of different typefaces.


497 posted on 06/08/2011 8:53:07 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Rebellion is brewing!! Impeach the corrupt Marxist bastard!!)
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To: Tex-Con-Man
...blow those up, they are similar, but those boxes are absolutely NOT identical.

Actually, they are identical. It's very simple blow it up right in your browser. They are exactly identical. What are the odds?
498 posted on 06/08/2011 8:55:04 PM PDT by Brown Deer (Pray for 0bama. Psalm 109:8)
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To: Jim Robinson

Fair enough. I will give you credit for being the only one to address the issue of typefaces, as Irey presented it, in a reply to me. All the other replies to me, without exception, have obfuscated, spun and avoided the subject.


499 posted on 06/08/2011 9:06:28 PM PDT by TigersEye (Who crashed the markets on 9/15/08 and why?)
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To: Brown Deer; Jim Robinson

>> “So, your claim is that Obama’s minions used several different fonts and or type faces, variable font sizes, variable kerning, etc, etc, etc, to produce an OBVIOUSLY forged document?” <<

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I’ve made the same assertion a few times here.

It was done to make a red herring. A diversion from the real issues.

Even if really born in HI, he still is not a “natural born” citizen, and that is the issue.

The data on the forged copy is likely still correct.


500 posted on 06/08/2011 9:06:36 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Going 'EGYPT' - 2012!)
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