Sorry, there's no way that is true. Either you have a faulty memory, or you ladies are lying. I don't know which.
No one, repeat, no one, prior to the Fall of 2008, claimed that natural born status required two citizen parents. Period.
Why did no know bring up the two-citizen parent requirement when Spiro Agnew was a vice presidential candidate? Or better yet, Michael Dukakis? Both men had at least one non-citizen parent.
Or better yet, how come not a single person raised the issue until AFTER Obama was elected? It was both well-known that he was running AND that his father wasn't a citizen. And yet, no one thought that might be a problem until after he was elected.
Sorry, ladies. Your story just doesn't pass the smell test.
The only thing that doesn’t pass the smell test is you claiming to know the contents of every book ever used in schools in the last 100 years and to know what was taught in every school in the country over the last 100 years with regard to the “natural born citizen” clause.
To use your own words “Sorry, there’s no way that is true.” I don’t think anyone would beleive your statements in theis regard are true! God knows, but you certainly do not!
We ladies have only attested to our own real life experiences that occurred before you were even born with regard to what we were taught in school about the “natural born citizen” clause. I do know that in my case I am not lying, and I am more inclined to believe the other ladies since they are only attesting to their own experiences and they are similar to my own.
Since by your own admission you were not even alive in the 1960’s and I had in fact already graduated from high school before you were even born, the liklihood of my remembering what was taught to me is far greater than the liklihood of your knowing what was contained in every textbook used to teach civics classes, and knowing what was taught in every school in this country over the last 100 years.
Oh and by the way, go back and read your history. There have been objections to presidential candidates running for the president with regard to this clause as far back as Chester A. Arthur who may have also been elected as president and been technically “ineligible” due to the “natural born citizen” clause but at the time it could not be verified one way or the other. There have been objections to other presidential candidates as well including John McCain who I personally do not think was eligible either since he was technically born at a hospital that was not in the U.S. even though it is clear he would not have had divided loyalties to more than one country.
Speaking of smell tests, you stink like a lousy obot troll.
It was raised here on Free Republic before the 2008 election.
Sorry, there's no way that is true. Either you have a faulty memory, or you ladies are lying. I don't know which.
No one, repeat, no one, prior to the Fall of 2008, claimed that natural born status required two citizen parents. Period.
Why did no know bring up the two-citizen parent requirement when Spiro Agnew was a vice presidential candidate? Or better yet, Michael Dukakis? Both men had at least one non-citizen parent.
Or better yet, how come not a single person raised the issue until AFTER Obama was elected? It was both well-known that he was running AND that his father wasn't a citizen. And yet, no one thought that might be a problem until after he was elected.
Sorry, ladies. Your story just doesn't pass the smell test.
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"No one, repeat, no one, prior to the Fall of 2008, claimed that natural born status required two citizen parents. Period.
Really?
I see your still stuck on the big lie there curiosity. [1][2]. You've clearly got a severe case of revisionisthistory-itis
The two citizen parent argument was discussed in the public arena in the Summer of 2008 (that's prior to the Fall) regarding Barry. Further, the two citizen parent argument was discussed in the public arena in the Spring of 2008 with regards to McCain.
All one has to due, is Google: two citizen parents "natural born citizen" between the dates of Jan 1, 2008–Aug 24, 2008 [the day prior to the DNC nomination] gives (according to Google) "About 21,900 results" with many familiar sites listed. [Edit: Now the results are 21,500]
In fact, add "obama" and remove "mccain" from the search results and you'll see people were discussing this issue prior to June 2008, which is when it appears the discussions involving Barry, two citizen parents and "Natural Born Citizen" really took off.
Using "-mccain obama two citizen parents "natural born citizen"" and "Jan 1, 2008–May 31, 2008" gives 761 results. [Edit: now gives 740 results]
FURTHERMORE...the two citizen parent definition was reiterated by many in government over the years. For example:
| John Bingham, "father" of the 14th Amendment, the abolitionist congressman from Ohio who prosecuted Lincoln's assassins, REAFFIRMED the definition known to the framers by reiterating Vattel's definition...not once, but TWICE during Congressional discussions of Citizenship pertaining to the upcoming 14th Amendment! "All from other lands, who by the terms of [congressional] laws and a compliance with their provisions become naturalized, are adopted citizens of the United States; all other persons born within the Republic, of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty, are natural born citizens. Gentleman can find no exception to this statement touching natural-born citizens except what is said in the Constitution relating to Indians." (Cong. Globe, 37th, 2nd Sess., 1639 (1862)).
“every human being born within the jurisdiction of the United States of parents not owing allegiance to any foreign sovereignty is, in the language of your Constitution itself, a natural born citizen.” (Cong. Globe, 39th, 1st Sess., 1291 (1866))" |
No Congressman offered up a counter argument, EITHER TIME, to Congressman Bingham's reiterating the two citizen parent definition for Natural Born Citizen. They ALL knew what it meant.
"THE VENUS, 12 U.S. (8 Cranch) 253, 289 (1814) (A case on citizenship and domicile. Marshall, C.J. concurring) (cites Vattel six (6) times by name, and "law of nations" ten (10) times.) SHANKS V. DUPONT, 28 U.S. 242, 245 (1830) (same definition without citing Vattel) |
No one, repeat, no one, prior to the Fall of 2008, claimed that natural born status required two citizen parents. Period.
NONE of these two ladies are lying, but YOU are, as usual!
This was established in the SPRING of 2008 that NBC status required TWO U.S. citizen-(s). Period!!
"Liar, Liar, Pants On Fire", FINO!!!
I know I can smell ya from here. Smells like troll.
You must have tuned in late. The issue had been raised before Obama was elected. The MSM was still braying about tingling legs.