[trumandogz]

And four days later, on Christmas Eve, those same persons declared, that the primary reason for leaving the Union was so that the people of South Carolina could continue to keep human beings as mere property.

Are you proud of that?

[central_va]

I am very proud that they stood up for states rights, whether you or I or anyone else like or dislikes the reason given for leaving is no concern of yours or mine but only of the citizens of that state. To think otherwise makes you a fascist. Are you a fascist?