Posted on 12/06/2010 10:37:18 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
On Monday evening, November 8, a helicopter-borne Los Angeles news crew shot stunning footage of what appeared to be a missile rising out of the Pacific about 35 miles west of the city.
In the days since, competing theories have crowded the Internet as to what that news crew actually recorded. In a quick survey, nearly half of the technical experts with whom I corresponded were inclined to believe the jet contrail theory given tepid blessing by the Pentagon.
My own research into the destruction of TWA Flight 800 off the coast of Long Island in July 1996, however, has left me forever suspicious of official government explanations.
This is especially true when there is a Democrat in the White House, as there also was in 1996. On these occasions, the media can be impressively incurious.
One alternative theory for a missile scenario deserves attention if only for its compelling logic. In the dissection of any seeming conspiracy, logic precedes logistics. The why of an event matters at least as much as the what.
Try this logic on for size: Last week, President Obama wrapped up his Asian junket with a trip to the G-20 summit in Seoul.
There, as Bloomberg reports, Obama “attacked China’s policy of undervaluing its currency.” Continuing its military metaphors, Bloomberg adds that the gathering was “marked by clashes.” Not without its own ammunition, China “took aim at the Federal Reserve’s monetary easing.”
Had the Chinese wanted to use more than words to show their ability to strip America of its creature comforts, they could not have chosen a more symbolic way than an EMP-- electromagnetic pulse--attack on, say, a cruise ship like the Splendor.
As it happens, the Splendor lost its power early Monday, November 8, some 44 miles offshore and roughly 200 miles south of San Diego. No media report that I could find questioned the official “fire in the engine room” explanation. It may even be true.
Later that same day, however, about 300 miles north, the news crew spotted the apparent missile launch. With the presumed missile launch might we have been saying, “You can take out your cruise ships, but we can take out your country?” Or might the Chinese have been saying, “We have you got you squarely in our crosshairs?”
“Andrew,” a retired U.S. Navy fire control technician platform-certified in the gun and missile systems on board Adams class guided missile destroyers, argues for the latter.
“What I saw in the recent video concerning the object 30 miles off the coast of CA,” contends Andrew, “is blatantly a foreign made, large Cruise or ICBM missile, being launched by a sub-surface aquatic platform.”
Andrew believes it is not one of ours because the vapor trail appears brownish or "dirty." Says Andrew, “We put a lot of sweat and money into our ‘birds’ and part of that is the fuel cells. They burn very clean, a whitish-blue in fact, not a dirty blackish brown.”
Adds Andrew, “Any high-ranking expert who believes this is a condensation trail off of a commercial airliner is lying or stupid. I hope you hear from other Fire Control Techs who saw the same thing I did!”
Andrew also rules out the possibility that this was one of our missiles accidentally launched. A launch of a missile of this size--large Cruise or ICBM according to Andrew--requires at least five people all doing something specific at the right time.
“There is no ‘one red button’ to launch a missile,” says Andrew. “That's all Hollywood BS. It’s impossible to accidentally launch a missile!”
As was true with the demise of TWA Flight 800, which killed 230 good people, the media are content to sleep through the ensuing investigation. Citizen journalists, however, are a naturally skeptical breed.
Glen Schulze, whose technical expertise proved very helpful in the TWA Flight 800 investigation, sent the FAA a Freedom of Information Act request within three days of the sighting.
In that Schulze has already experienced roadblocks unique to his own situation, allow me to cite his references for those who might be interested in following up on their own.
Pursuant to the Freedom of Information Act, 5 U.S.C. 552 and /or the Privacy Act, 4 U.S.C. 552a, I hereby submit the following specific request for SO CAL TRACON Radar Data from FAA monitored flight operations on the following day and times in electronic form via CD media.
This is an urgent FOIA request for SO CAL TRACON Radar Data ---both primary and secondary returns ---- described and identified as follows----
An electronic file/s containing time-of-day and the spherical radar coordinates and applicable beacon altitudes of all radar target returns of all types ---- primary and secondary --- from all SO CAL TRACON antennas within a 100 Nautical mile range of Santa Catalina Island between 0000 and 0300 Zulu 9 November, 2010. The returns from multiple FAA antenna sites may be integrated together into one 3 hour file time base as was done by the SO CAL TRACON in responding to FOIA# 2008-002427WS.
There was a time when the major media used to do the reporting citizen journalists now do. Today, the media content themselves with recycling White House press releases and dismissing real reporters as “conspiracy theorists.”
Looks like we was fired upon by Koreans...
There was no EMP attack on the Splendor. None of the electronics, either shipboard or belonging to passengers, was damaged. The ship lost power, but the electronics weren’t harmed. And, once in range of shore, passengers cell phones and laptop wi-fi signals worked just fine.
It wasn’t a plane. I saw a similar corkscrew contrail the other day on a FR posting of a launch of an anti-aircraft missile. The corkscrew began shortly above the launch platform and then the missile straightened itself out and shot off into the atmosphere.
Go back and look at old V2 missile firing films from Germany and you’ll see one vere off and spiral before it crashed.
Comments?
I didn’t know what to think of TWA 800 at the time. Personally, I had flown on that flight two months prior to the incident, so I read a lot of the press releases and analysis. Then later I was watching news coverage of a terrorist event, it might have been 9/11, George Stephanopolis offhandedly listed prior terrorist activity. He casually included TWA800 in his list.
I was so startled that I used my DVR control to rewind and listen again. While he was out of the Clinton Whitehouse during the event, I presume that he still had administration contacts who would have known if there was a cover-up.
It could have also been the Romulans using their new pulsar-master-blaster Phaser cannon. There's just as much evidence to support Romulans, as there is any evidence to support some idiotic claim of an EMP - an EMP that magically disables the ship's engine, but leaves all other electronic completely unharmed. Maybe it was a Romulan RMP?
"Andrew,” a retired U.S. Navy fire control technician...
...who happened to not want to share his last name. Imagine that.
"“is blatantly a foreign made, large Cruise or ICBM missile, being launched by a sub-surface aquatic platform.” "
...that also happens to be invisible to the naked eye, and creates no sonic boom. An invisible, silent super-sonic missile. Sounding more like Romulans with every paragraph.
Well, at least Mr. Cashill has another conspiracy theory to occupy his time. I hope the "hospital" continues to allow him internet access. I would hate it if his next missive wouldn't be able to reach his fans.
Bump
I have sat on the beach and watched commercial airliners turn into what appear to be missile launches several times.
The Great CBS Missile Hoax of 2010
I thought it was either Sandy Berger or one of the other National Security Advisor types that made that slip?
Too much speculation
No, it was Uncle Remus, not the Romulans. The CIA have secretly employed Tar Baby Pulse, TBP as opposed to EMP. Far more effective than EMP, TBP disables the enemy while leaving the electronic infrastructure intact. In a way it is a “green” neutron bomb approach.
My recollection was Stephanopoulus. I found this entry in “Smilin Jack” forum:
“>September 11, 2001: Mr. George Stephanopoulos, former assistant to President Clinton, on ABC TV with Peter Jennings in mid afternoon talked about the two situation rooms in the White House. Speculating that Cheney, Rice, and other Bush administration leaders were in the more secure 2nd situation room, Stephanopoulos said that this room was where Clinton leaders had gone to meet “after the Oklahoma City bombing and the TWA BOMBING.”!! This, of course, could have been a slip of the tongue in emotional times, I am sure he meant to say shootdown. *(revised quote)
On Larry King Live tonight Senator Kerry who was on the Intelligence Committee until last year, includes Flight 800 along with the embassy bombings in discussing our reaction to terrorism!
“James Kalstrom was quoted on network television yesterday as saying: “this is the first time since TWA 800,” inferring that TWA was an act of terrorism. *(revised quote)
“If anyone has video tape of any of these quotes, please contact ARAP so we can get a verified transcript.<
“Stephanopoulis’s comment was made on Tuesday afternoon, Sept. 11, between 2 and 5pm EDT on ABCTV.”
http://www.smilinjack.com/cgi/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=6;t=000284
I am amazed that the chem-trail kooks have not chimed in.
As for myself, I vote that it is a missile.
An EMP took out that cruise ship?! Who knew? I would bet serious money that Orly Taitz and her followers were marching in San Diego at the time. All that tin foil would explain the EMP.
And what ultimately proved to you that they weren't? How long did it take you to observe them before being able to determine for certain that they were planes instead of missiles?
No normally sighted congizant human being is going to be fooled into thinking a horizontal airline contrail is a vertical missile plume for long.
That cameraman sure must have been awful stupid. Not remotely as smart as you, TomTom.
*rolls eyes*
F-ing CONTRAIL. Why does this idiotic “story” persist? I blame Beck.
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