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To: patlin

From the US State Department:

F. RENUNCIATION FOR MINOR CHILDREN
Parents cannot renounce U.S. citizenship on behalf of their minor children. Before an oath of renunciation will be administered under Section 349(a)(5) of the INA, a person under the age of eighteen must convince a U.S. diplomatic or consular officer that he/she fully understands the nature and consequences of the oath of renunciation, is not subject to duress or undue influence, and is voluntarily seeking to renounce his/her U.S. citizenship.
http://travel.state.gov/law/citizenship/citizenship_776.html


26 posted on 09/24/2010 12:13:00 PM PDT by jamese777
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To: jamese777

Thanks, I was just looking for that...


27 posted on 09/24/2010 12:14:25 PM PDT by mnehring
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To: jamese777
Again, you are trying to legitimize your usurper using “current” US statements of the State Dept. Show me where they say this from 1961-1968. Perkins v. Elg was the most current SCOTUS case at the time and thus the precedent for this case.

Just another lame argument coming from one who didn't even know the difference between "analogous" & "synonymous" in the WKA deciding opinion that has been misinterpreted for over a 100 yrs.

31 posted on 09/24/2010 12:19:42 PM PDT by patlin (Ignorance is Bliss for those who choose to wear rose colored glasses)
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To: jamese777; mnehring
jameseeee, you just can't help yourself can you?

TITLE 8 > CHAPTER 12 > SUBCHAPTER III > Part III > § 1481
Prev | Next § 1481. Loss of nationality by native-born or naturalized citizen; voluntary action; burden of proof; presumptions...How Current is This?

Updates to this section of the United States Code
http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/HowCurrent.php/?tn=8&fragid=T08F00311&extid=usc_sec_08_00001481——000-&sourcedate=2010-05-12&proctime=Thu May 13 07:52:43 2010

Title 8 > Chapter 12 > Subchapter III > Part III > Section 1481

§ 1481. Loss of nationality by native-born or naturalized citizen; voluntary action; burden of proof; presumptions

Title 8 of the US Code as currently published by the US Government reflects the laws passed by Congress as of Feb.1, 2010, and it is this version that is published here.

36 posted on 09/24/2010 12:31:54 PM PDT by patlin (Ignorance is Bliss for those who choose to wear rose colored glasses)
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To: jamese777; mnehring
It's dated 2/1/08
45 posted on 09/24/2010 1:09:12 PM PDT by Lady Jag (Double your income... Fire the government)
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To: jamese777

That link doesn’t carry any weight because its current law. What did the State Department say in 1968?

That is what’s relevant.


57 posted on 09/24/2010 1:37:41 PM PDT by conservativegramma
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To: jamese777

Could it have happened this way?


93 posted on 09/24/2010 3:45:10 PM PDT by noinfringers2
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To: jamese777

Anyone can move out of the country and renounce their citizenship, even a minor.

Here’s a sample letter the State Department sends to minors who have renounced their citizenship with information about their rights as reach the age of majority ...

7 FAM EXHIBIT 1292
A SAMPLE LETTER TO ACCOMPANY CLN FOR
MINOR RENUNCIANTS
(CT:CON-285; 03-06-2009)

Post Letterhead

Date

Dear (NAME):

Every U.S. citizen has the right to renounce voluntarily and intentionally his or her citizenship, as you have done. Because this is a very serious decision with consequences that may not have been apparent to you at the time, the law gives persons like yourself who renounced under the age of 18 an opportunity to reevaluate your decision when you reach the age of 18.

Section 351(b) of the Immigration and Nationality Act (8 U.S. Code
1483) allows you to reclaim your U.S. citizenship within 6 months after your 18th birthday. You are advised to make a note of the deadline to reclaim automatically your U.S. citizenship: the deadline is [insert date six months from 18th birthday.] You may do so by going to any U.S. embassy or consulate or passport acceptance facility, execute a passport application and take an oath of allegiance to the United States. Under this law, if you make such a claim, you will be considered as never having renounced your U.S. citizenship.

Just like the decision to renounce your citizenship, the decision to reclaim it is yours alone. No one, including the U.S. Government, any other government, or even your own family can make the decision for you. Please keep this in mind as you consider whether you may want to make a claim of citizenship once you become 18.

The U.S. Government and the Department of State do not wish to influence your decision. We just want to make sure that you know that you have the right to reconsider and “take back” this decision upon reaching the age of 18. Because this is a very important right that you retain, we ask that you keep this letter with your Certificate of Loss of Nationality should you wish to take advantage of this right when you reach the age of 18. The Department of State will also keep a complete record of your renunciation as well as this letter. Please remember that the period to automatically reclaim citizenship expires on [date].

If you have any questions, do not hesitate to contact (NAME) at (phone number). You may also contact the U.S. Department of State, Office of American Citizens Services and Crisis Management at any time. That office can be reached at 202-647-5225.

Sincerely,

SIGNATURE OF CONSULAR OFFICER
TYPED NAME OF CONSULAR OFFICER
TITLE OF CONSULAR OFFICER


124 posted on 09/24/2010 6:16:23 PM PDT by SvenMagnussen (Soebarkah renounced his US Citizenship in 1968.)
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To: jamese777
and what if Obama intentionally attended college as an adult as a foreign exchange student?

and what if he traveled as an adult under a foreign passport?

492 posted on 09/27/2010 3:48:25 PM PDT by bronkburnett (response)
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