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You can love Palin without wanting her to be president (Journolist Alert)
Politico ^ | 8/30/10 | Journolist Liberal Ben Smith, pissant's latest hero

Posted on 08/30/2010 9:55:57 AM PDT by pissant

A new 60 Minutes/Vanity Fair poll offers what is, I think, a somewhat misleading way to look at Sarah Palin.

The poll finds that 59% of Americans and 40% of Republicans don't think she'd make an "effective president" -- numbers that come very close to disqualifying her even in the primary, if she chooses to run.

This trouble imagining President Palin is constant across the polling since soon after she was chosen as John McCain's running mate, and it reflects both her own lack of experience and the higher bar set for a woman -- Hillary Clinton did years of carefully projecting the kind of strength Mark Penn thought she needed to show to be a plausible contender. (Holmes and Traister think there's now space for a Palin on the left, but the poll numbers suggest otherwise to me.)

In any case, however, it's possible to adore and follow a political leader without wanting him or her to be President of the United States, or even thinking he or she is qualified. The most frequently drawn parallel with Palin is Jesse Jackson -- popular and respected on much of the left for a time, at least, seen as presidential by smaller numbers.

But the Daily Show's Jon Stewart may be a better example.

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To: onyx

Nice!


61 posted on 08/30/2010 10:35:32 AM PDT by Retired Greyhound
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

LOL. Amazing isn’t it, how many owmen want to imitate her even though they say they don’t like her? Must be awfully insecure to be so petty and jealous of someone who isn’t interested in stealing their stupid man. I wish Sarah would dump her glasses during public appearances from time to time just to put that Tina Fey out of business.


62 posted on 08/30/2010 10:35:32 AM PDT by onyx (If you support Sarah and want on her Ping List, let me know!)
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To: pissant
How many dozens of MSM (left wing trash) articles are posted here each day?

Uh, pissy, usually those articles are posted as a vehicle to trash the left-wing talking points contained within.

You are posting them in agreement with the anti-Palin talking points.

BIG difference. But one you don't care to acknowledge.

LOOK! Andrew Sullivan just wrote an anti-Palin column! Hurry up and get it posted!

A guy that has taken the time and effort to get actual conservative politicians to come onto FR

Yeah, and for what? So you can trash other conservatives who don't pander to you?

63 posted on 08/30/2010 10:36:31 AM PDT by dirtboy
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To: onyx

Is that “Altered State” picture Sarah?

Doens’t really look like her.


64 posted on 08/30/2010 10:36:36 AM PDT by Retired Greyhound
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To: GlockThe Vote
...family, advosros, personal BS, etc.

Does advosros = advisers?

65 posted on 08/30/2010 10:37:43 AM PDT by TheOldLady (Pablo is very wily.)
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To: Retired Greyhound

I don’t know. It’s a Lefty’s idea of a nightmare (”President Palin”) which is why Roe v. Wade is in the shredder and “Miss Wassila” is on the flagpole, but I like it for the visualization. Here is the site (it’s interactive):

http://www.palinaspresident.us/


66 posted on 08/30/2010 10:38:23 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I don't need a newspaper to know the world's been shaved by a drunken barber.)
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To: pissant

Palin does NOT represent mainstream Christianity in America. She is dangerous for America with her radically religious foreign policy.


67 posted on 08/30/2010 10:38:23 AM PDT by SQUID
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To: 9YearLurker

“And who do you think would make a better president?”

I don’t know. I see it as one of those places where the president is not what is important. Rather, it is the quality of his advisors and his willingness to listen to them. (Yes, I know that embedded in that statement is the president IS important, but I think you understand what I am saying.)

Obama could be a completely ignorant and incompetent ignoramous - which he is, actually - but if he surrounded himself with truly competent and “good” advisors and he took their advice, he could have a tremendous legacy.

Kinda like Henry Ford Sr when he was being accused of being incompetent by his heirs. On the stand he admitted that he didn’t know anything but when he needed to know, he pressed a button on his desk to call the guy who DID.

That is one of the qualities of a leader. And as long as Obama is surrounded by the Chicago machine, we are pretty much doomed.

But back to Sarah, I compared her to Rush on purpose. In the private sector, your hands are not tied. I really do not want a repeat of the same events that resulted in her resigning the governorship.


68 posted on 08/30/2010 10:38:55 AM PDT by RobRoy (The US Today: Revelation 18:4)
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To: Retired Greyhound
Without glasses, yes, just like this one.


69 posted on 08/30/2010 10:41:09 AM PDT by onyx (If you support Sarah and want on her Ping List, let me know!)
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To: GlockThe Vote
I personally adore Palin, but don’t want her to run since I believe she is FFAARRR more effective doing what she is doing now.

I agree. I want a president who can make common sense but detailed arguments like Paul Ryan, someone who can field complicated questions without batting an eye and end up making a fool of the people asking them.

Sarah's great at fund raising, cheer leading, everything you said. I "like" her a lot but I don't think she's our best choice for president.

70 posted on 08/30/2010 10:41:23 AM PDT by BuckyKat (Green is the new red.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Ha ha, that site is pretty funny, though.

Waterboarding Katie Couric behind the door, oil dereks out the windows. burning books.

Liberals are sooo stupid.


71 posted on 08/30/2010 10:44:31 AM PDT by Retired Greyhound
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To: RobRoy

They’re going to continue to give her all they’ve got, and she’s going to continue to be able to take it. Their trying to corner her in the AK governorship has backfired on them—big time.

They spent 8 years fuming at Reagan (and W) to no avail. And Palin doesn’t need any patronizing protection from the presidency for which she is now seeming destined.


72 posted on 08/30/2010 10:44:31 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: dirtboy

“conservative” is a relative term. As you would admit, since I’ve never seen you step in to defend TPaw, Newt, Huck, etc from the onslaught of palinistas.


73 posted on 08/30/2010 10:45:39 AM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: onyx

I like her better with the glasses.

Either way, she is a nice looking woman.


74 posted on 08/30/2010 10:46:45 AM PDT by Retired Greyhound
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To: SQUID
Palin does NOT represent mainstream Christianity in America.

What, precisely *is* mainstream Christianity in America and where does she go astray?

She is dangerous for America with her radically religious foreign policy.

What , precisely, *is* her radically religious foreign policy?

I'm really anxious to hear your answer to this outrageous assertion of yours.

75 posted on 08/30/2010 10:46:51 AM PDT by onyx (If you support Sarah and want on her Ping List, let me know!)
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To: pissant
“conservative” is a relative term.

Yeah, sure, pissy. Duncan Hunter can turn over his seat to his son - engaging in the same kind of dynastic politics we've seen too many times in this day and age - and that's apparently A-OK with you - so don't lecture ANYONE on conservativism.

As you would admit, since I’ve never seen you step in to defend TPaw, Newt, Huck, etc from the onslaught of palinistas.

When TPaw, Newt or Huck is right on the issues, I will acknowledge such, and have done so.

76 posted on 08/30/2010 10:50:36 AM PDT by dirtboy
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To: onyx
I wish Sarah would dump her glasses during public appearances from time to time just to put that Tina Fey out of business.

She wouldn't do that because she might cause a depression in the eyewear business. She understands the law of unintended consequences, even if the clueless libs don't. :)

Personally I'd like her to do it, though, just to make the commies' heads explode.

77 posted on 08/30/2010 10:51:07 AM PDT by Al B.
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To: Retired Greyhound
Yep!


78 posted on 08/30/2010 10:51:46 AM PDT by onyx (If you support Sarah and want on her Ping List, let me know!)
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To: GlockThe Vote

Without the threat of being President she loses a lot of her juice, if you want her to keep the media’s attention in the service of her conservative goals, then you should strive to keep the Presidential run alive.

Besides, a lot of this is for nothing if she doesn’t become President, passions like this can’t be kept alive forever, you have to get the big payoff before it dissipates.

This battle that you admire is not just Dem versus Rep, this is a battle for the soul of the Republican party (yet again), if a Daniels, or Pawlenty, or Romney wins in 2012, then the conservative movement fizzles and is absorbed again by the moderates of the Rockefeller heart of the GOP.


79 posted on 08/30/2010 10:51:46 AM PDT by ansel12
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To: onyx; SQUID; pissant

No wonder I can’t find Jägermeister in the liquor store...


80 posted on 08/30/2010 10:51:46 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I don't need a newspaper to know the world's been shaved by a drunken barber.)
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