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To: Beckwith

There has been no corroborative evidence that Barack Hussein Obama aka Barry Soetoro was born anywhere in the United States much less the State of Hawaii.

The absence of any collaborating evidence means there is nothing to establish any conclusive facts about the background of Barack Hussein Obama, that includes his birth location. The only thing that is claimed is ‘native’ status and that is based on his claims that he was born in Hawaii. Claimed but never proven. The same birth mother [if Stanley Ann] would produce two different outcomes if born in Hawaii or born in Kenya. But even the birth in Hawaii, there is questionable jurisdiction as stated [the law] under Title 8 and the 14th Amendment, complete jurisdiction, not a part thereof. If in Kenya, an underage mother that can not confir any US citizenship.

As stated, if Barack Hussein Obama could, beyond any doubt, establish that he was in fact born anywhere in the United States, that documentation would have been issued and paraded around long ago. The fact that expenses countinue to mount in opposition of releasing any dcouments speaks volumes in itself.

The Birth Certifcate is a smoke screen.
Condider what ‘IS’ on a long form and then ask yourself what could be there that would necessitate that records be hidden and unavailable.

We conclude based on Obama’s admission that he biological father is Barack Obama Sr, backed up by the divorce papers.
A foreigner, a British Subject who bestowed the same governance to his children, including Barack Hussein Obama.

There is no collaborative evidence that Barack Hussein Obama aka Barry Soetoro was born anywhere in the United States, including Hawaii. Because as stated ‘IF’ being born in the United States was all that was required to be eligible, then all the documents would have been released long ago.

The only other item of substantial importance is the biological mother. Again, with one admitted foreign parent, the question of citizenship is one of dual nationality. But with a foreign mother as I suspected long ago, that would mean that he has no legal United States citizenship of any kind. That in of itself would require all records that show his true birth to be hidden. The State of Hawaii has stated that his vital record was amended and this resulted in the multiple records they maintain on file.

All the other data on the long form does not matter, the number of siblings, weight, doctor, witnesses, et.
The doctor story was debunked long ago as a fabrication.

So again, the data that they are hiding is the actual birth mother, and even when Barack found this out, when he ‘discovered’ his birth certificate in the shoe box, he began the short road of hating his ‘adoptive’ mother’s race.

When Obama stated that he was a few months old when the Bay of Pigs happened, he was telling the truth, but combining the real facts with the fairy tale past in his autobiographies.

I doubt that Stanley Ann was pregnant at all, or even went to Africa at anytime, but that Barack Hussein Obama was born in Kenya as the Kenyan government has stated numerous times. That his home country is Kenya as stated by his wife, Michelle.

That is the reason, why over $1.8 million has been spent to hide the simple fact that Barack Hussein Obama has no United States citizen parents. None.


53 posted on 06/02/2010 2:32:24 PM PDT by syc1959
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To: syc1959

Nice theory, but then how do you explain why he looks so much like Stanley’s father?


54 posted on 06/02/2010 4:26:52 PM PDT by dinodino
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To: syc1959

There has been no corroborative evidence that Barack Hussein Obama aka Barry Soetoro was born anywhere in the United States much less the State of Hawaii.

The absence of any collaborating evidence means there is nothing to establish any conclusive facts about the background of Barack Hussein Obama, that includes his birth location. The only thing that is claimed is ‘native’ status and that is based on his claims that he was born in Hawaii. Claimed but never proven. The same birth mother [if Stanley Ann] would produce two different outcomes if born in Hawaii or born in Kenya. But even the birth in Hawaii, there is questionable jurisdiction as stated [the law] under Title 8 and the 14th Amendment, complete jurisdiction, not a part thereof. If in Kenya, an underage mother that can not confir any US citizenship.

As stated, if Barack Hussein Obama could, beyond any doubt, establish that he was in fact born anywhere in the United States, that documentation would have been issued and paraded around long ago. The fact that expenses countinue to mount in opposition of releasing any dcouments speaks volumes in itself.

The Birth Certifcate is a smoke screen.
Condider what ‘IS’ on a long form and then ask yourself what could be there that would necessitate that records be hidden and unavailable.

We conclude based on Obama’s admission that he biological father is Barack Obama Sr, backed up by the divorce papers.
A foreigner, a British Subject who bestowed the same governance to his children, including Barack Hussein Obama.

There is no collaborative evidence that Barack Hussein Obama aka Barry Soetoro was born anywhere in the United States, including Hawaii. Because as stated ‘IF’ being born in the United States was all that was required to be eligible, then all the documents would have been released long ago.

The only other item of substantial importance is the biological mother. Again, with one admitted foreign parent, the question of citizenship is one of dual nationality. But with a foreign mother as I suspected long ago, that would mean that he has no legal United States citizenship of any kind. That in of itself would require all records that show his true birth to be hidden. The State of Hawaii has stated that his vital record was amended and this resulted in the multiple records they maintain on file.

All the other data on the long form does not matter, the number of siblings, weight, doctor, witnesses, et.
The doctor story was debunked long ago as a fabrication.

So again, the data that they are hiding is the actual birth mother, and even when Barack found this out, when he ‘discovered’ his birth certificate in the shoe box, he began the short road of hating his ‘adoptive’ mother’s race.

When Obama stated that he was a few months old when the Bay of Pigs happened, he was telling the truth, but combining the real facts with the fairy tale past in his autobiographies.

I doubt that Stanley Ann was pregnant at all, or even went to Africa at anytime, but that Barack Hussein Obama was born in Kenya as the Kenyan government has stated numerous times. That his home country is Kenya as stated by his wife, Michelle.

That is the reason, why over $1.8 million has been spent to hide the simple fact that Barack Hussein Obama has no United States citizen parents. None.


The corroborative evidence in addition to Obama’s Hawaii issued Certification of Live Birth includes the statements made by the Republican Governor of Hawaii, Linda Lingle, the Republican Attorney General of Hawaii Mark Bennett and the appointed officials of the Hawaii Department of Health all confirming that Barack Obama was born at 7:24 pm on Friday, August 4, 1961 in Honolulu, Hawaii.

Furthermore, two birth announcements for him appeared in both major Honolulu newspapers on Sunday August 13, 1961 and Monday, August 14, 1961.

All of that is corroborative to the degree that no court in 69 tries has invalidated that data including seven lawsuits challenging Obama’s eligibility that have been rejected by the US Supreme Court.
http://www.hi5deposit.com/health/vital-records/obama.html

“I, Dr. Chiyome Fukino, director of the Hawaii State Department of Health, have seen the original vital records maintained on file by the Hawaii State Department of Health verifying Barack Hussein Obama was born in Hawaii and is a natural-born American citizen. I have nothing further to add to this statement or my original statement issued in October 2008 over eight months ago.”—July 27, 2009

“Based upon the language of Article II, Section 1, Clause 4 and the guidance provided by [the Supreme Court of the United States in their 1898 decision in the case of U.S. v.] Wong Kim Ark, we conclude that persons born within the borders of the United States are “natural born Citizens” for Article II, Section 1 purposes, regardless of the citizenship of their parents. Just as a person “born within the British dominions [was] a natural-born British subject” at the time of the framing of the U.S. Constitution, so too were those “born in the allegiance of the United States natural-born citizens.”—Indiana Court of Appeals, “Ankeny et. al. v The Governor of Indiana, Mitch Daniels,” Nov. 12, 2009

“This is one of several such suits filed by Ms. Taitz in her quixotic attempt to prove that President Obama is not a natural born citizen as required by Constitution. See U.S. CONST. art. II, § 1. This Court is not willing to go tilting at windmills with her.”—Chief US District Court Judge Royce C. Lamberth in dismissing the Quo Warranto claim in “Taitz v Obama”—April 14, 2010

If anyone really wants to see Obama’s birth records, they can be subpoenaed for a Grand Jury investigation in accordance with Hawaii law. It is telling that no prosecuting attorney in the nation has convened a Grand Jury to look into this matter and gotten a judge to issue a subpoena for Obama’s long form, vault copy, original birth certificate.


55 posted on 06/02/2010 5:09:09 PM PDT by jamese777
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To: syc1959

Your theory (53) is as good as any, but accepts Barack Hussein Obama Sr. as father — and there is no factual evidence to support that.

The only thing we KNOW is that we don’t KNOW squat about this guy.


58 posted on 06/03/2010 2:06:19 AM PDT by Beckwith (A "natural born citizen" -- two American citizen parents and born in the USA.)
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To: syc1959

The only other item of substantial importance is the biological mother. Again, with one admitted foreign parent, the question of citizenship is one of dual nationality. But with a foreign mother as I suspected long ago, that would mean that he has no legal United States citizenship of any kind. That in of itself would require all records that show his true birth to be hidden. The State of Hawaii has stated that his vital record was amended and this resulted in the multiple records they maintain on file.

All the other data on the long form does not matter, the number of siblings, weight, doctor, witnesses, et.
The doctor story was debunked long ago as a fabrication.

So again, the data that they are hiding is the actual birth mother, and even when Barack found this out, when he ‘discovered’ his birth certificate in the shoe box, he began the short road of hating his ‘adoptive’ mother’s race.

When Obama stated that he was a few months old when the Bay of Pigs happened, he was telling the truth, but combining the real facts with the fairy tale past in his autobiographies.

I doubt that Stanley Ann was pregnant at all, or even went to Africa at anytime, but that Barack Hussein Obama was born in Kenya as the Kenyan government has stated numerous times. That his home country is Kenya as stated by his wife, Michelle.

That is the reason, why over $1.8 million has been spent to hide the simple fact that Barack Hussein Obama has no United States citizen parents. None.


His father actually had a second white wife, very eccentric, living in Kenya too, near him, who made another son who looks EXACTLY like Barry Obama.

Others have suggested she is the real mother as NO pictures of a pregnant Stanley have ever turned up.

I do not believe he was born in Hawaii.

Canada (single mother’s home etc), or Kenya, even received from the other white wife of Obama Sr all seem more likely to me, after years of this tremendous massive cover up of the original full BC.


60 posted on 06/03/2010 9:25:26 AM PDT by DontTreadOnMe2009 (So stop treading on me already!)
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To: syc1959

The only other item of substantial importance is the biological mother. Again, with one admitted foreign parent, the question of citizenship is one of dual nationality. But with a foreign mother as I suspected long ago, that would mean that he has no legal United States citizenship of any kind. That in of itself would require all records that show his true birth to be hidden. The State of Hawaii has stated that his vital record was amended and this resulted in the multiple records they maintain on file.

All the other data on the long form does not matter, the number of siblings, weight, doctor, witnesses, et.
The doctor story was debunked long ago as a fabrication.

So again, the data that they are hiding is the actual birth mother, and even when Barack found this out, when he ‘discovered’ his birth certificate in the shoe box, he began the short road of hating his ‘adoptive’ mother’s race.

When Obama stated that he was a few months old when the Bay of Pigs happened, he was telling the truth, but combining the real facts with the fairy tale past in his autobiographies.

I doubt that Stanley Ann was pregnant at all, or even went to Africa at anytime, but that Barack Hussein Obama was born in Kenya as the Kenyan government has stated numerous times. That his home country is Kenya as stated by his wife, Michelle.

That is the reason, why over $1.8 million has been spent to hide the simple fact that Barack Hussein Obama has no United States citizen parents. None.


His father actually had a second white wife, very eccentric, living in Kenya too, near him, who made another son who looks EXACTLY like Barry Obama.

Others have suggested she is the real mother as NO pictures of a pregnant Stanley have ever turned up.

I do not believe he was born in Hawaii.

Canada (single mother’s home etc), or Kenya, even received from the other white wife of Obama Sr all seem more likely to me, after years of this tremendous massive cover up of the original full BC.


BYW the other brother refuses to state his own age and place of birth as does the other white mother ....................

I wonder why ???


61 posted on 06/03/2010 9:26:21 AM PDT by DontTreadOnMe2009 (So stop treading on me already!)
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