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To: equalitybeforethelaw; LS; BillyBoy; AuH2ORepublican; fieldmarshaldj; Non-Sequitur; erod; ...

Look I don’t like Sherman’s march to the sea either, I wouldn’t have volunteered for the Union army but I cry no tears for the damn CSA.

If child-rape was legal in some part of the country and a bunch of states left the union after a President unsympathetic to child-rape was elected would you stand with the child rapists and their alleged right to secede? I wouldn’t, I’d tell them to go to hell for raping children.

CSA sure didn’t care about the black mans NATURAL RIGHT not to be a damn slave. Or about Kansas’ right to decide they didn’t want to be a slave state. or the right of nortern states not to let brutal fugitive slave hunters operate north of the mason-dixon. But it wrapped itself in the US constitution and it’s alleged right to leave to union for any reason. Pathetic. Selective love of the constitution.

If a slave killed his owner while trying to escape would you have favored hanging the slave as was the law at the time? I say it’s self defense. But the law is the law. Right? Irreverent question? No more so than your completely off-point question about the Revolutionary War.

You can argue both sides were wrong but you can’t argue for the virtue of the CSA. They left the union for a crappy and moronic reason.


692 posted on 04/21/2010 8:31:30 AM PDT by Impy (RED=COMMUNIST, NOT REPUBLICAN | NO "INDIVIDUAL MANDATE"!!!!!!!)
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Lets turn it around, could the United States have gained its independence without the support of slave owning states? If you say yes, please explain.

Impy, you never answered my question. I know slave owners are next to Satan, but how did Lincoln find himself President of the US if not for all those slave owners that created the US? What changed?


693 posted on 04/21/2010 8:41:23 AM PDT by equalitybeforethelaw
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Would you be suprised to know that a bill making secession illegal was voted on in the Senate? It was voted down.


695 posted on 04/21/2010 8:56:35 AM PDT by central_va ( http://www.15thvirginia.org)
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To: Impy

CSA sure didn’t care about the black mans NATURAL RIGHT not to be a damn slave.

Neither did the US so whats your point? As I recall, the British basically announced an emancipation like Lincoln’s in hopes of causing a slave rebellion. How is that different? Doesn’t it make the British more concerned with human rights than the Americans?


698 posted on 04/21/2010 9:56:17 AM PDT by equalitybeforethelaw
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“You can argue both sides were wrong but you can’t argue for the virtue of the CSA. They left the union for a crappy and moronic reason.”

IMHO, I think what is often left out of these discussions are the states which originally wished to preserve the Union but ended up with the Confederacy due to Lincoln’s call for troops. States that believed those who wished to secede had the right to do so but did not initially wish to secede themselves. Because of this, I don’t believe every state left the Union for crappy reasons.

Also, within each state there were individuals, and groups, who were abolishionists, pro-slavery, and some who didn’t care either way. The individual aspect of it all. I sometimes wonder if we truly comprehend the annihilation of an entire generation of men and boys. The horror of it all. I, personally, cannot paint either side with a broad brush due to these reasons.

As to the issue of slavery itself, I do agree with you.


701 posted on 04/21/2010 10:24:38 AM PDT by southernsunshine
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