[BuckeyeTexan]

Read my posts about how I titled cars as an employee of a dealership while an authorized title clerk and notary for the State of Texas. Having a head nurse be a notary and registrar who witnesses the physician’s signature is absolutely within the realm of reason. Someone with state authority has to witness the doctor’s signature. Otherwise the veracity of the document cannot be attested to by the state.

[butterdezillion]

Nobody has to see the doctor sign the certificate. It has a self-subscribing oath. There is no notary seal on birth certificates, no notary stamp, nothing.

[Danae]

I did read your posts. And they do have me thinking... however, what I get caught on is this. 1) I know Hawaii is corrupt as all getout. Its like chicago only in the middle of the ocean.

Next is my records. My long form was signed by my Dr. on the 13th of August. It was signed and filed by the registrar, who in reality is a clerk, the next day, the 14th. The dates are clear as day.

This is a picture I took less than 5 min ago with my iPhone. This is a PhotoCopy of my long form. It is not the actual form, that is in a different location in a safe deposit box.



So I KNOW that my Dr signed it on a day different than the Registrar did, therefore, the registrar, a functionary of the DOH was not present when the Dr. signed it. Think about it, would the State send a special registrar to every OB in Honolulu to personally witness the signing of certificates? If it had to be witnessed, why not just have a Notary Public do it if it had to be a witnessed signature?? A Notary could have been an employee in the Dr.'s office.

No, the Registrar registered the birth documents in a state office. That person did not witness the signature being placed on them by the Dr.'s themselves. Likely the Dr's signed them in their offices, or perhaps at the hospital, and the forms were then sent to the State office where the Registrar would then put them into the system and give them a Number.

How do I know this? Because in the outer islands, there are state offices, but they did NOT actually put file numbers on the documents. Which is why it would be listed as ACCEPTED by the registrar and why they had to make that allowance in that time, the documents had to go by plane of boat to the main Island, Oahu. Thats why there is a place for "Date Received By Local Registrar" and then "Date Accepted by Local Registrar". Received, means it is in state hands, a state office. Filed means it got an actual File number ie: 151 61 010641 Barry's supposed "file" number. Those dates might well be different, they had 7 days to get er done.

Barrys says it was FILED on Aug 8th. Meaning it got it's NUMBER 151 61 010641 on that day. The Nordyke's were FILED on Aug 11th, three days later, with numbers 151 61 10637, 10638, 3 and 4 digits difference respectively, and lower numbers. This is completely illogical.

There is enough questionable here to make one wonder what the heck is going on.