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To: El Gato
I don't doubt that you are right El Gato. I read that the hospital was just a few hundred meters off base, and a claim regarding the birth certificate, and dismissed the rest of the details. It didn't much matter, but I should know that sources should be questioned. This is the first I've heard of his mother saying he was born on base. If mom said so, I'll buy it. Would that mom had run for President with Sarah Palin. But it wouldn't make any difference, according to Gabriel Chin in the Michigan Law Review.

Apparently Panama is a unique case, and there had never been citizenship established for children of servicemen stationed in Panama as of 1936. There was a bill passed in 1937, but it could not have conferred natural born citizenship, a fact that Chin glibly ignored. The children of servicemen, born in Coco Solo, have been deported - in the days when we still did that. I'm sure, had McCain somehow secured the votes, the left would have gone after his eligibility.

There was a case brought in New Hampshire challenging McCain's eligibility. The big legal guns of the left were brought out to try to make a case for McCain, including the Dems in the Senate who were the firmly behind Obama. That case was dropped! We'll probably never confirm it, but I suspect McCain was provided with faux legal support by the left so Republicans wouldn't dare question Obama’s eligibility. Chin conceded that there was no law which could make McCain eligible.

I'm happy to be corrected!

7,227 posted on 08/06/2009 3:01:22 AM PDT by Spaulding
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To: Spaulding

Was the hospital a US military one ?

Then it is part of the base...

We lived in base housing at one base 3 miles from the actual base...

But it was still part of the base.


7,228 posted on 08/06/2009 3:11:40 AM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: Spaulding
I'm sure, had McCain somehow secured the votes, the left would have gone after his eligibility.

Rather dangerous on the left’s part. We might already be addressing Sarah Palin as “Madame President” if they had waited until after the election to attack McCain's eligibility. But McCain didn't secure the votes, so it's all academic.
7,254 posted on 08/06/2009 5:56:41 AM PDT by Cheburashka (Stephen Decatur: you want barrels of gunpowder as tribute, you must expect cannonballs with it.)
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To: Spaulding

To those who think McCain was eligible to be president:

McCain was born in a foreign country in a hospital owned by the railroad in a city NOT under U.S. jurisdiction. He CAN NOT be a natural born citizen. If you can’t be convinced of that from his own birth certificates and that he was even born in an area of the canal zone that was EXCLUDED from the treaty that gave the U.S. ANY jurisdiction in the rest of the zone (not that any of the canal zone was U.S. territory, but people just don’t seem to accept that FACT), then I guess you just can’t deal with reality.

From the Panama Canal Treaty of 1903:

“with the proviso that the cities of Panama and Colon and the harbors adjacent to said cities, which are included within the boundaries of the zone above described, shall not be included within this grant”.

http://faculty.chass.ncsu.edu/slatta/hi216/documents/pancantreaty.htm

See John McCain birth certificates for yourself.

http://panamajohn.dominates.us/articles/20-2-3-x2.jpg

http://johnmccain.dominates.us/


7,377 posted on 08/06/2009 10:33:08 AM PDT by faucetman
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