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To: truthfreedom

If we saw the aussie doc and it was exactly like what we saw except without Miller, Lavender and 44b 5733, we would be happy to have found information that supports our kenyan doc.
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This could indicate that the Aussie doc is fake, or that both docs are fake, and the author wanted them to be found out - and cause confusion...I’m leaning toward the Aussie doc being fake, and am holding out judgment on the Kenyan doc, although more information coming out is somewhat favorable. If we can get another image of a different Kenyan “Certified Copy of Registration of Birth”, that looks like the Kenyan one that Taitz entered into Court, then we’ll be further along.

There is this paragraph people are touting:
http://www.repubx.com/ (see August 4th blog post on this topic)

“Kitau says: “I happen to be Kenyan. I was born 1 month before Obama at Mombasa medical center. I am a teacher here at the MM Shaw Primary School in Kenya. I compared my birth certificate to the one that has been put on by Taitz and mine is exactly the same. I even have the same registrar and format. The type is identical. I am by nature a skeptical person. I teach science here and challenge most things that cannot be proven. So I went to an official registrar today and pulled up the picture on the web. They magnified it and determined it to be authentic. There is even a plaque with Registrar Lavenders name on it as he was a Brit and was in charge of the Registrar office from 1959 until January of 1964. The reason the date on the certificate says republic of Kenya is that we were a republic when the “copy” of the original was ordered. I stress the word “copy.” My copy also has republic of Kenya.” August 3, 9:04 PM”


6,585 posted on 08/04/2009 7:54:03 PM PDT by SeattleBruce (God, Family, Church, Country & the Tea Party! Take America Back! (Objective media? Try BIGOTS.))
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To: SeattleBruce

Well, that’s a funny and *very weird* pathway that I took to get this quote that you post here... LOL

Here’s what you quoted....


There is this paragraph people are touting:
http://www.repubx.com/ (see August 4th blog post on this topic)

“Kitau says: “I happen to be Kenyan. I was born 1 month before Obama at Mombasa medical center. I am a teacher here at the MM Shaw Primary School in Kenya. I compared my birth certificate to the one that has been put on by Taitz and mine is exactly the same. I even have the same registrar and format. The type is identical. I am by nature a skeptical person. I teach science here and challenge most things that cannot be proven. So I went to an official registrar today and pulled up the picture on the web. They magnified it and determined it to be authentic. There is even a plaque with Registrar Lavenders name on it as he was a Brit and was in charge of the Registrar office from 1959 until January of 1964. The reason the date on the certificate says republic of Kenya is that we were a republic when the “copy” of the original was ordered. I stress the word “copy.” My copy also has republic of Kenya.” August 3, 9:04 PM”


Now, you pointed to this link...
http://216.221.102.26/blogger/post/Disproving-the-Obots-Bomfort-report-Time-for-ObamaFukino-to-pack-their-bags.aspx

And that link pointed to this link...
http://www.orlytaitzesq.com/blog1/
[search down the page for the name “Kitau”]

And that link pointed right back here to this link (at Free Republic)... LOL...
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2307694/posts?page=33#33

Now, does that mean that everyone is quoting this paragraph that someone from Kenya said — which is actually (and *originally*) a Free Republic quote — but I can’t find where it came from — before that...

Help me out if you can, because it seems that this is “going around in circles” here... Now, this could come from some original source somewhere, but I sure can’t find it...


6,594 posted on 08/04/2009 8:08:08 PM PDT by Star Traveler (The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is a Zionist and Jerusalem is the apple of His eye.)
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To: SeattleBruce
This could indicate the Aussie doc is fake, or that both docs are fake, and the author wanted to be found out - and cause confusion...

Once again as I try to tear myself away from this record post, something sparks my interest and comment. This was your observation. I will concede that I may be misinterpreted, but here goes.

What if another proper birth certificate was produced and it was devasting to the incumbent president? The groundwork has been laid by possibly thrusting this one on the web. It would be "here we go again- it is a fake".

My next rendezvous will be at 11 am tommorrow Est. Perhaps by then, something else will turn up.

6,596 posted on 08/04/2009 8:11:59 PM PDT by Peter Libra
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To: SeattleBruce

Yeah if the Kenyan doc is fake, and it was based on the Aussie doc, why wouldn’t the maker of the doc change Miller, Lavender and 44b 5733? The maker of the Kenyan doc would have to have been extremely lazy and accepting of risk.

If the Aussie doc is fake, Miller, Lavender and 44b 5733 are the reason for the existence of the document. They would have created the Aussie doc in order to say “look, the Kenyan doc must be bad, because of Miller, Lavender and 44b 5733”

The media / Obama has what they want right now, which is something, anything, to say which would possibly discredit the Kenyan document, especially to those who aren’t paying attention. On Sunday, “47O44” was what they had, and it wasn’t working at all. They’re still trying “Republic”. “E.F. Lavender is a soap” didn’t work. So, they created, or revealed, the Aussie doc.

They don’t want to win the argument, they simply wanted something that wasn’t clearly ridiculous to say, and then they would call the Kenyan doc a fake. They weren’t going to spend 15 minutes on the subject, fairly analyzing each side, they were going to say the “Kenyan doc is fake” and their because became “because it was based on this Aussie doc”. And that was good enough for them. The Kenyan doc may very well be fake, but not because it was based on the Aussie doc.

It is much more likely the Aussie doc is fake than the Kenyan.

Unrelated to this, does South Australia use the book/page format of birth recordkeeping?

I remember someone saying a couple days ago that that book/page system was common in 3rd world countries like Kenya. Is South Australia a 3rd world country?

It was said that no real BC exists in Kenya, only those books, and the Kenyan doc is what you get when you ask for a BC. People have been looking for old South Australian bc’s, and they’re finding them. If there are real South Australian bc’s, it seems to me that they are using a more familiar system similar to the US, and not a book/page system.

Someone from South Australia should be able to answer this.


6,603 posted on 08/04/2009 8:23:22 PM PDT by truthfreedom
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