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To: ScaniaBoy
On the Shillings/Pence/Cents issue, I found these curious and possibly problematical items: passages from a historical account of registration practices in Oxford (England)

"On one occasion at a church ceremony I omitted to take the fee of 7s.6d. Luckily I discovered the home of one of the parties was being used for the reception. It was a large house with a crescent shaped drive. On arriving I quickly discovered I was the only cyclist. I boldly knocked on the door. The fee was found, regrets were expressed, and everything was complete. " Later on the same page, we find this more encouraging note that had the same sum in legislation dating back to the 1830's for registration of births in certain circumstances:

"The new Act provides for this by appointing District Registrars who are "authorised and required to inform themselves carefully of every Birth and of every Death which should happen within their respective Districts, after the last day of June, an d without claiming fee or reward from the persons requiring the Registration, if the information of Birth is given within 42 days, and of death within 5 days after the event, to register same, according to the prescribed form, under a penalty of £50. But those parents who shall neglect to have the Births of their children registered within 42 days will subject themselves to much additional trouble, and to fees of 7s.6d."

In summary, would it have been so odd if similar fees were applied around the British Empire and Commonwealth? Likewise, would it have been so odd for former colonies, as newly formed republics to simply retain the basic form that had been in use for decades?

I'm not convinced that the Shilling/Pence/Cents issue is a disqualifier, just because of the change of the monetary denominations went from Pence to Cents. Old bureaucratic habits die hard.

6,303 posted on 08/04/2009 2:00:05 PM PDT by JewishRighter
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To: JewishRighter
Excellent find!

It is possibilities like the one you posted among other things that make me vary of just calling the whole thing a fraud. In the end it may be that the 7s 6d actually strengthens the likelihood that the document is genuine.

There is - or at least was - so much "arcana" in British (and Imperial) legal and administrative routines that unless you are an expert on these issues it is very easy to come to the wrong conclusion.

BTW did you know that for a short time there was an English coin 7s 6d ? It was called the Angel. The value of the coin varied throughout history (6s 8d) when it was introduced in the 14th century and 11s when it was last coined during the English Civil War.

However, the Angel was an iconic coin and though it hasn't been in use for more than 400 years the name still lives on in the names of pubs and underground stations.

6,312 posted on 08/04/2009 2:22:00 PM PDT by ScaniaBoy (Part of the Right Wing Research & Attack Machine)
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Well...that is downright fascinating....


6,390 posted on 08/04/2009 4:21:50 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (Support Geert Wilders)
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To: JewishRighter
Of purely academic interest now but JewishRighter's hypothesis that the registration fee of 7s 6d might have applied around the British Empire is given support by this 1960s birth certificate from Southern Rhodesia (present day Zimbabwe):



The revenue stamps at the bottom add up to 7s 6d.
7,853 posted on 08/07/2009 12:10:03 PM PDT by Vera Lex
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