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To: BP2
It's QUITE possible that all other copies of this Kenyan birth certificate may have been scrubbed from Kenyan archives, but this one may have survived in a lone Vital Statistics office somewhere in Kenya not known about until now.

I need to explain how birth records are kept in Kenya and many developing countries. The record of the birth is entered on a sequentially numbered page in a securely bound book, and the pages are sequentially filled with records, which are indexed elsewhere for retreval. This document is unitary and is never duplicated or removed from the bound, sequentially nummbered pages.

If a record of a birth is required for any purpose, a fee is paid to the registrar who prepares a certificate attesting to the facts as contained in the original record and issues it under seal. Thus, there could be several or indeed many copies of a record issued to different individuals and at different times, but the underlying document in the record book remains unaltered and unchanged.

There ARE NO birth multiple records hidden away in Kenya, only the one, and it cannot be altered or changed without creating a very noticable gap in the book. This is one area where old fashioned record keeping may have an advantage over modern digital methods.

The present document that we are looking at on FR is very much anagous to the Hawwaii COLB, in that it is a secondary document attesting to facts extracted from a different, primary document.

The present document must have been requested by someone. They don't go around making copies of vital recored for the entertainment value. Somebody requested it for a purpose, and it is the suspicion of many that it had to to with the Obama-Dunham divorce.

At any rate this document was either purloined from some archival court record, or it was among the personal documents of either Stanly Ann or Obama Sr.

How it has become public is a question that needs to be answered in order to know how much credibility to give it. Until the provenance is established beyond doubt, it will be continually trashed as a forgery.

4,892 posted on 08/03/2009 2:59:12 AM PDT by John Valentine
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To: John Valentine
At any rate this document was either purloined from some archival court record, or it was among the personal documents of either Stanly Ann or Obama Sr.

Or one of Obama Sr.'s relatives in Kenya.

4,905 posted on 08/03/2009 3:24:44 AM PDT by Fresh Wind (Too bad presidents don't come with certificates of authenticity.)
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To: John Valentine
Thank you for this post. It is very informative and explains why there is no physical long form or original BC that most of us are familiar with. The original is the data recorded in a bound book and only exist in that form.
4,997 posted on 08/03/2009 5:56:16 AM PDT by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: John Valentine

Excellent summary of situation as it stands.


5,211 posted on 08/03/2009 9:09:58 AM PDT by little jeremiah
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