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To: palmer; null and void
Okay, so this was a quite recent thing. If, for the sake of argument, we take it for granted that Fukino's statement was not misinformed or suborned, and that he was, indeed, born in Hawaii, then the question remains about why, on this issue, Obama has been completely obfuscatory. One thing is that his records in Hawaii would also contain the records of his adoption by Lolo Soetoro when Barry's mother gave up her citizenship to become his wife under Indonesian law. Under U.S. law at the time, the child's citizenship (Barry's) followed that of the custodial parent (Stanley), meaning that he also became an Indonesian citizen and that if he ever did regain his U.S. citizenship, it would only have been as a naturalized citizen, one ineligible to hold the office of President. Now, that's something he'd really want to hide.
2,006 posted on 08/02/2009 10:53:34 AM PDT by aruanan
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Hawaiian officials are seriously parsing their language, and in every statement they reference the Laws and provisions of Hawaii. Not US law. Not constitutional Law. They are covering butt too.


2,036 posted on 08/02/2009 11:00:10 AM PDT by Danae (- Conservative does not equal Republican. Conservative does not compromise.)
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To: aruanan; null and void
the question remains about why, on this issue, Obama has been completely obfuscatory

I try to ignore his obfuscation. I believe it is a game and a distraction.

the child's citizenship (Barry's) followed that of the custodial parent (Stanley), meaning that he also became an Indonesian citizen and that if he ever did regain his U.S. citizenship, it would only have been as a naturalized citizen

True and there is the British citizenship possibility. Or other possibilities. I am agnostic about those possibilities and have never argued for or against them. But in this thread, on this topic, I am pointing out that we need to carefully consider the possibility that the document in the photo is forged.

2,040 posted on 08/02/2009 11:01:00 AM PDT by palmer (Cooperating with Obama = helping him extend the depression and implement socialism.)
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Great post!


2,056 posted on 08/02/2009 11:04:41 AM PDT by TheBigIf
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