[palmer]

If you’ve got the chops to prove it one way or the other, please have at it and post your research and analysis.

So I can pretend to be a "document expert" like some other posters here? No thanks! Let me ask you this though,. suppose that the Hawaiian birth was real but there is a problem that precludes "natural born". Wouldn't this whole effort here just be yet another distraction?

My opinion is that when the Hawaiian official said "Hawaiian born" she meant that there is actual paperwork with that, not a "late filing" with a falsely stated Hawaiian birth.

[aruanan]

My opinion is that when the Hawaiian official said "Hawaiian born" she meant that there is actual paperwork with that, not a "late filing" with a falsely stated Hawaiian birth.

When did a Hawaiian official break the law by revealing information from a birth certificate?

[savedbygrace]

My opinion is that the fact his father was not a U. S. citizen precludes BHO II from being a natural born citizen, so his place of birth is irrelevant.

‘Chops’ refers to actual real-life ability, not to degrees and stuff. So, NO, you can’t pretend to be a document expert. Either you are or you’re not.