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To: JoeProBono; Alamo-Girl; DCPatriot; airborne; auggy; bearsgirl90; Brad's Gramma; CJ Wolf; ...
NOTE: Am pinging a specially selected portion of the END TIMES LIST because I think you folks either might be interested or I personally very much want you to read these selected excerpts of a longer post above. I may have guessed wrong. Sorry, if so. Most of you I merely have more awareness of and dialogue with than the rest of the longer list.

Additional excerpts to emphasize from 1,089 . . . QUIX DIGEST VERSION:

Americans in general know nothing of the world of intelligence and the power that intelligence can give. In the world of intelligence the universe is not mechanical, rather it is covertly or overtly hostile. In the world of intelligence there are only opponents and very little is "objective." The intelligence game is not "us against a mechanical universe" but instead "us against an enemy who means us harm." In this arena if you wait for proof--you'll see it from the afterlife. This is the world of the UFO.

Most Americans are totally innocent of this. Oh, they know there is a CIA and that it spies on people, sure. They have heard something about the FBI spying on "subversives" in the 1960s and they may know of the National Security Agency. But not one American in a thousand has any idea of what is actually happening. If the most powerful country in the world is going to "maintain innocence" then its people must not know very much and it is this public ignorance and apathy that helps make many things, including the "UFO," so hard for most people to accept. People who are unaware of the bizarre things their own elites are doing have no way to deal with what ANOTHER civilization might be up to!

Thus the "threshold of belief" is just too high for most people where the "UFO" is concerned. In the opinion of UFOSearch this is the DESIRED result of a covert plan. Until this planned wall of ignorance is broken down for a large number of Americans there will be no real progress on the "UFO front."

. . . It was the world of the American physicist who in 1940 had a budget of five hundred dollars and who by 1945 was spending millions.

It was a member of the A.E.C. (Rockefeller operative Strauss) who goaded the Air Force into monitoring the stratosphere for possible products of a Soviet atomic explosion, three years before any "military expert" thought there was even a possibility of a Soviet bomb. Proof? It was enough that the Russians existed and that we had the bomb and that they would certainly try to get it. A very dangerous, multi-million-dollar operation was set in motion on the basis of a "hunch" on the part of an influential scientist. Of course, the "hunch" did fit the paranoia of the day. The "hunch" fed the power complex. And when the "hunch" was proven right (instrumental data was acquired), it wasn't "a hunch" or "paranoia" anymore, it was revealed truth! . . . The scientists were the ones who made The National Reconnaissance Office possible and gave The National Security Agency its abilities.

Who sat on their hands as Eisenhower tried to get a test ban treaty to cool off the Cold War and stop the Strontium 90 from showing up in my milk in Carrollton, Missouri? The former General Of The Armies pleaded with his scientific advisors for help but none came. None of them were curtailing their brand new power. It is said that Eisenhower feared the "military-industrial complex." That may be true. But behind that was the arrogance of the new elite, an elite that had tasted forbidden fruit and was lusting for more. Thus the "scientists" helped crush the old government elite during the so-called "McCarthy Era" and pushed the "weapons culture" ahead as fast as possible

By the middle of the 1950s half of the scientists and technical people in the USA were working for the War, er, the Defense Department--as they do today. For almost two generations now our very best people have been totally concerned with power and the projection of power--raw military power. This set them against many of their own ancient traditions; power does that. . . . Today, "Science" is not always a noble work, not always a part of an ancient "liberal" tradition (based on the rule of law and the free exchange of information) but can now be an integral part of an imperial system riven with secrecy and power mania. In this world nearly anything goes--anything. In this world, a world of arrogance, duplicity and bad faith on a planetary scale, planetary blackmail becomes possible.

. . . I mean that when you really start down the rabbit hole of the "UFO," when you stop looking into the sky and start looking at things on the ground, you have left the mythical world of "science" and entered the world of intelligence and power. The rules here are different. This is serious.

The existence of "aliens" from another planet, another dimension or even another part of the Earth would be both a shock and a threat beyond tolerance for our elites. It is easy to say things like "human culture would change if we make contact" but when you are on top of the current heap you don't want to hear things like that. Not at all.

[QUIX COMMENTARY: NOT WHEN the elites have been seduced literally by hell into the conviction that the UFO 'critters' ARE GOING TO HELP THE ELITES STAY ON TOP OF THE HEAP ETERNALLY . . . in this galactic region of existence or whatever notions they've convinced them of.]

Add to that what I suspect became known in the 1950s about implantation and abduction, mutilation and disappearance, and the Eisenhower years became a living nightmare for many of our new economic and scientific elites. They were ripe for blackmail, overweeningly proud and yet insecure in their new positions. If our little grey friends (or those behind them) didn't seem to care about human social arrangements and said they just needed a few things from us and a little help in getting them (from 50 or 100 light years away they probably couldn't bring the whole store) then by God they were going to get the stuff--from our own elites using our tax dollars. And if a little inducement were offered, such as high technology, well, all the better. A little bribe makes a guilty conscience a whole lot easier to live with.

We here at UFOSearch can well believe that in exchange for "protection" our new scientific elites would have eagerly provided assistance to others, even if part of the "deal" involved harm or even death to average Americans. We must remember that these are the same people who would bring the world willy-nilly nuclear testing and Thalidomide. They view the "average man" as not much better than a dog. It would have been a deal that they could hardly have refused, a deal they would already have made with the nuclear devil.

Does UFOSearch believe that our hereditary elites (the employers of Allen Dulles, James Forrestal and William Casey) would trade a few million lives for their continuance in power? Yes. Do we believe that the people who created Project Phoenix would trade a million or so of our lives for a power that might put them on top, over and above their old- line earthly superiors? Yes. Was a "revolt of the Dulleses" possible? Yes.

All of these people have one interest in common--staying on top. For them, as for the many scientists, the common people are a common herd and occasionally some slaughtering must be done--that's the way it is. Our nuclear progams have killed thousands of Americans over the years. None of them care. What would they do for the power of the Gods? Would they kill us all? We fear they might.

NOT JUST "MIGHT" . . . They PLAN to forcefully reduce the population to 200 million globally. Check out the GEORGIA GUIDESTONES.

HERE: http://www.radioliberty.com/stones.htm

They have evidently been convinced by hell . . . and have taken over our universities with the philosophical mentality that 1. There is no right vs wrong; is no right or wrong. 2. That man is nothing more than a rat, a pigeon, radish, or a rock, to paraphrase B.F. Skinner. 3. That man is destroying himself and the planet and MUST be stopped with God-like Draconian powers, measures--which powers, hell--via the critters--has been quite happy to provide the elites.

AND ALL OF THIS is ENTIRELY consistent with Biblical END TIMES prophecy . . . and with God determined in these END TIMES to demonstrate to all Creation and all eternity that life, power, authority--anything--everything--WITHOUT HIM becomes hellish.

1,108 posted on 02/05/2009 7:39:12 AM PST by Quix (LEADRs SAY FRM 1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Quix

You know Quix, there is a lot of truth in what you say, but you are missing one piece that most are overlooking, and that is GMO Pharming. The genetic tom-foolery that is going on is far more dangerous than any nuclear threat, millions are dying already from it, something got loose however by accident, and now, even the elites and there children are in danger from it, I know what it is, I in fact have it, I in fact am dying from it. Trust me, you don’t need a bomb or a war to reduce the population, you can make it all look so normal none will barely notice it.

There are no regulations currently regarding this GMO Pharming, and what is going on I hazard to say, you also are probably ignorant of (in the true meaning of the word, no offense meant).


1,114 posted on 02/05/2009 7:50:08 AM PST by Scythian
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To: Quix
Just a quick comment.

Given that you know infinitely more about the CIA and Gov't Ops than I do, it is my fairly uneducated opinion that the CIA and Intel Services are not monolithic and, accordingly, esoteric knowledge is compartmentalized. This is why, for example, folks at Gitmo relied on waterboarding (when a more productive manner of mind manipulation would have been most welcome).

Regarding the matter of aliens, I tend to come from the basic premise that there is something to the abduction reports (and from the reports of Mack and others who have studied them)...that something quite real and sinister (of a supernatural or extra-dimensional nature or both) is going on.

From a Christian eschatological perspective, all this dovetails nicely with the "strong delusion" of the 2 Thessalonians 2:11 variety. From nearly all the anecdotal evidence, it appears this alien presence is most likely a masquerade hiding forces and activities of a demonic or Satanic nature.

1,120 posted on 02/05/2009 8:06:05 AM PST by SonOfDarkSkies
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To: Quix

self ping for later read, and bump to your post


1,134 posted on 02/05/2009 8:38:54 AM PST by TenthAmendmentChampion (Be prepared for tough times. FReepmail me to learn about our survival thread!)
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To: Quix

Thanks for the ping!


1,139 posted on 02/05/2009 10:44:28 AM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: Quix
Quix, do you watch Fringe?
1,259 posted on 02/11/2009 7:52:53 AM PST by marbren
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