Posted on 11/15/2008 6:48:02 PM PST by palmer
I am just pointing out the facts that I see which will ultimately help improve the quality of the conspiracy. I really have nothing against those folks, but I want them to acknowledge the reality of the evidence (i.e. the artifact in the photos) and weave a better conspiracy around it. I proposed several in my initial post and they are fairly reasonable (e.g. an authorized forgery in the govt. office in Hawaii).
I'd guess that he might have become a candidate in order to have standing to challenge Obama in court over eligibility. Maybe someone can confirm.
Not this time.
A man must be registered to be eligible for jobs in the Executive Branch of the Federal government and the U.S. Postal Service. Proof of registration is required only for men born after December 31, 1959.
Yep, that appears to cover him. If the registration is bogus, he may have more than one problem.
NO, they did NOT. Now you're just engaging in shallow Obamanism. Shame on you! The lower court sided with Obama's argument that Berg did not have standing with the court to even file the suit because, as the judge said, the "harm" created by an inelligible candidate was too attenuous to determine, whatever the hell that means...part of Obama and the DNC's argument was that since Berg wasn't a candidate himself, he shouldn't be allowed to file. The court did NOT "throw out" his evidence, AND, the affidavits (yes, there were at least 2 AFFIDAVITS) were not part of the lower court case, they were added to the appeal to the Supreme Court. They were by the 2 people (both ministers, for whatever that's worth) that conducted and translated his interview with the grandmother. One thing has become painfully clear. You don't even know the basics about this issue, but yet you have basically posted a pro-Obama thread, doing their propaganda for them. That ain't cool, man. Yeah, Berg has a lot of baggage apart from this, but that's separate from the legal facts.
Please post a succinct explanation of the Hawaii loophole consistent with the Factcheck photo.
Previous lawsuits were discounted because they had no standing.
Keyes may have a case.
Dianna, I think we may have the biggest coverup in American history...well..there are probably others...but right now...an ineligible President seems pretty severe.
I am not sure the truth will ever see the light of day.
Someone mentioned last night that Keyes rushed to get registered as an independent. He made sure to get in CA. I think he did not get all 50 states. He also picked a CA resident as VP. This would give them standing in any lawsuit. CA has a precident of cases where people are thrown off the ballot for not being qualified by old enough (age) or for not being Americans.
Keyes is a very good conservative but he is usually a GOP team player. The GOP rushed him to IL to run against O when O’s goons unsealed Ryan’s divorce case.
I think Keyes was drafted to run in CA as insurance. UK intelligence, Europeans and Africans know Obama was born in Kenya. Africans also know he is a Muslim. I know Rhodesians who know the tribe his father is from.
Is this separate from the Governor doing whatever it was she did to put it out of reach?
Thanks, Velveeta.
Uh, oh. Palmer has a thread.
Y’all might want to check this out; ping.
“after the response to that they’ll be even more hesitant.”
How do you know this?
I have no idea what Obama’s original birth certificate looks like, but “FactCheck’s” deceptively labeled http://www.factcheck.org/UploadedFiles/birth_certificate_5.jpg is an printout of an abstract and not the actual birth certificate.
Come on. Stop quoting that silly “Factcheck” site. It is making you look more silly than anyone on this thread. You have to know that Factcheck.org is built by lefties / Obama supporters, and as much as you don’t want FreeRepublic to be ridiculed by the left, I doubt you want to get labeled an Obama supporter. Right?
I have posted an pro-fact thread regarding the photos at Factcheck. I also strayed into the Kenya evidence because it seemed particularly lacking, but I have only watched Berg's expose on youtube and read about his lower court case.
As for the affidavits, they will have to be reviewed by a court to see if they withstand scrutiny (and if they are relevant).
Obama's mother was born in the US. The only reason he would be in trouble if he was born in Kenya is her age. Congress could always pass a law redefining "natural born citizen" to include anyone who had at least one parent who was an American citizen, regardless of age, and that would be that.
For that matter, they could redefine "natural born citizen" so it included being born in the US or its possessions or in Kenya, and who's to stop them?
Factcheck.org is part of the Annenburg group and an ACORN organization started by 0bama. It is an unreliable source of information.
My post was purely opinion, sorry. The SCOTUS responses to the various Bush vs Gore were wishy-washy IMO. Then the court was slammed for getting involved and slammed for "selecting" the President. I think they're going to be more hesitant than ever to get involved and make a strong statement about a Presidential election.
I realize that. I am only explaining how it was probably produced (or more precisely, not produced). It could contain misinformation created in a variety of ways as I listed.
The point is... it can be done. An insider in the Hawaii state government could probably have pulled it off without much of a trace. For others, it would be more difficult.
I'd even agree that it's possible to forge the long form... but it's infinitely more difficult, especially if it is to survive professional examination.
But the short COLB is easy enough to forge that ANY variety of it is inadequate given the weight of the situation. Only the original long form (like the one McCain produced some time ago) is sufficient.
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