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1 posted on 04/02/2007 8:46:25 AM PDT by ventanax5
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Somebody has to start talking about this. It affects every major city in the country and denying that we have a problem will not solve it.

I live in VA Beach Virginia and a local controversy here has revolved around the former Vice Mayor complaining that white cops were killing to many blacks. One of the local TV stations did a survey of the murders committed the previous year. What they found:

Murders in Norfolk 191
Blacks Murdered in Norfolk 168
Murders committed by blacks 88% (169)
Number of blacks killed by white cops 1

I've just about stopped watching the first 15 minutes of the local news...it's just 2 or 3 stories about some young black male killed by another young black male.

2 posted on 04/02/2007 8:55:33 AM PDT by pgkdan (Tolerance is the virtue of the man without convictions - G.K. Chesterton)
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" ... breaking the taboo on talking about the connection between race and crime. "

Why are we as a society so stupid? There is no connection between RACE and crime, there's a connection between CULTURE and crime! A black child raised in the same setting as a white child has no more propensity toward violence than the white child. (Allowing for individual variances of course. Some kids are more aggressive than others regardless of race).


3 posted on 04/02/2007 8:57:48 AM PDT by brownsfan (It's not a war on terror... it's a war with islam.)
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Liberals are quick to point out that poverty breeds crime and more blacks live in poverty, but they won't make the logical deduction blacks commit more crimes. Racism has nothing to do with it. Political correctness forces the denial of many simple truths that ultimately perpetuates the evils for which political correctness is the supposed cure.


5 posted on 04/02/2007 9:07:33 AM PDT by Spok
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"Isnora and his colleagues knew the following, when they saw a car racing toward them whose occupants they believed could have guns:"


How big is that parking lot?


8 posted on 04/02/2007 9:09:21 AM PDT by ansel12 ((America, love it ,or at least give up your home citizenship before accepting ours too.))
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"Crime, not police racism, drives negative police-community relations in black neighborhoods."

True. But until "black neighborhoods" begin taking responsibility for their actions and stop blaming the crimes they commit on the color of their skin, nothing will change - Including the rapidly growing number of black racists.

9 posted on 04/02/2007 9:10:36 AM PDT by Finop (The Liberal says... "It's not fair that you work harder than I do")
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Mayor Mike Bloomberg has the chance to transform not just New York, but all American cities, by breaking the taboo on talking about the connection between race and crime.

The opening ploy for a huge spending plan.

14 posted on 04/02/2007 9:16:29 AM PDT by RJL
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“The “public doesn’t get how frightened cops are,” says a former NYPD commanding officer.”

Maybe not... but their feeling it other ways. Cops, under direction of their unions and the politicians will avoid the high-violence/high-crime areas in order to focus on 'safer' locations to police. Locations that bring in revenue through fines and citations... rather than drain resources in neighborhoods that are crime-ridden... but broke.

15 posted on 04/02/2007 9:18:52 AM PDT by johnny7 ("Issue in Doubt." -Col. David Monroe Shoup, USMC 1943)
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It's the liberal government programs, the hip-hop culture, and the Drug War, IMO, that has contributed to black-on-black crime.


23 posted on 04/02/2007 9:25:53 AM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Remember, don't shoot food!)
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tragedies like the Sean Bell shooting

snort! That was no tradgedy.

26 posted on 04/02/2007 9:27:35 AM PDT by Fierce Allegiance (One fish, two fish, I want to go catch bluefish.)
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Here's the DOJ Bureau of Justice stats.
35 posted on 04/02/2007 9:33:55 AM PDT by rabidralph
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I have tried, Lord knows I have tried, to treat Blacks as equals and not display any prejudice. They (the Blacks) have made this impossible.


37 posted on 04/02/2007 9:37:28 AM PDT by lawdude (2006: The elections we will live to die for!)
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Bump for an excellent posting!

BTW, I've posted full articles from City Journal with no complaints.


43 posted on 04/02/2007 9:44:05 AM PDT by aculeus
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Propensity for criminal activity has no relation to one's race. It's socioeconomic and cultural.


46 posted on 04/02/2007 9:47:09 AM PDT by mysterio
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In case you all overlooked it, the most amazing part of the article, IMHO, is how the police, in targeting the club because of all the past crimes and problems, to try and clean it up and/or shut it down, which will make this all-black neighhood a better place.. send in an UC who is UNARMED!!!! Does anyone realize the cojones this guy has...the absolute balls it takes to do that.....
52 posted on 04/02/2007 9:52:06 AM PDT by ken5050 (The 2008 winning ticket: Rudy/Newtie, with Hunter for SecDef, Pete King at DHS, Bill Simon at Treas)
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US DOK report indicatesw that blacks commit about 85 percent of all violent crimes.


58 posted on 04/02/2007 9:59:20 AM PDT by stockpirate (You want real conservatives to show up at the polls this time, run real conservatives!)
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The relationship between blacks and crime is a red herring.

The crime rate just about everywhere is about Class. Correlations can easily be discerned.

The Public Schools, the welfare state, Democrat Party plantation mentality, prejudice, and outrageous self interest by Bull $hit artist public servants are all major factors in urban area crime rates.

Somebody ought to do a study concerning the crime rates among certain immigrant groups from areas such as...Haiti.

I have a number of friends who are originally from Haiti, and they are among those most intelligent, hard working, ambitious folks that I have ever known.

My friends distinguish themselves regularly in so many ways that I simply cannot express what I know here because I simply do not have all day.

One thing that I am certain of....My Haitian friends have not been limited or intellectually restrained by the self serving abominable school systems of our hypocritical culture.


83 posted on 04/02/2007 4:35:53 PM PDT by Radix (Reasonable people often can and do disagree.)
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DOJ statistics show that the per-capita violent crime rate among blacks is about SEVEN TIMES that of whites. We can debate the underlying causes all day, but it doesn’t erase the simple fact that there is a huge disparity in crime rates between blacks and whites. If I meet a stranger on the street, that stranger is statistically 700% more likely to attack me if he is black instead of white. I am far more likely to go to condition orange if the stranger coming up to me is black. It’s not racism, it’s just reality.


91 posted on 04/21/2007 1:34:05 PM PDT by TampaDude (If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the PROBLEM!!!)
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To: ventanax5

Ah, so this is why people think Republicans are racist.


94 posted on 05/04/2007 5:09:14 AM PDT by twisket
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