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To: lqclamar; Admin Moderator
To respond to some of your accusations:

1) Denigrating the service of decorated Allied soldiers because they happen to be African, Muslim, or conscripts. Is indeed a "wrongheaded, bigoted, or downright dangerous" idea.

2) Donna does not believe the Baha'i concept of God is the same as the Christian and Jewish concept of God. This is the official Iranian position on the Baha'i faith.

3) You have consistently downplayed the heroic service of Muslim Africans in World War 2 -- and African culture in general -- for no reason other than your personal dislike of the people or their religion.

4) As mentioned before, eleni121 preferred to insult all World War 2 veterans rather than praise a Muslim. That's bigotry.

5) When you say: Falsely accuses several freepers of bigotry - "A lot of the bigots posting on this thread not only can't tell the difference between Arabs and Muslims" you're dishonestly giving only half of my quote, it continues "they insist that there is no difference." And certainly, insisting that all Arabs are Muslims -- in the face of glaring evidence to the contrary -- is bigoted.

And this is what I mean when I say you misrepresent my arguments. Because you do. You fill your snide, behind-the-back posts with voluminous lists of carefully selected half-truths designed to make me look bad. You do the same when you misrepresent historian Raffael Scheck's scholarship, as you have done several times on this thread, despite being corrected. Furthermore, you do it under the dishonest guise of "giving the full quote" and then doing the exact opposite.

I fully expect you to be rude to me. I am a bit perplexed why you are so disrepectful to Scheck and I am absolutely flabbergasted that you present yourself as a conscientious FReeper when you pollute these threads with mischaracterizations, half-truths, and general dishonesty.

Please stop. And if you won't. I'll ask the Moderators directly: Please make him stop.

170 posted on 02/16/2007 10:06:49 PM PST by zimdog
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To: Admin Moderator; Jim Robinson; donna; eleni121; kanawa
1) Denigrating the service of decorated Allied soldiers because they happen to be African, Muslim, or conscripts. Is indeed a "wrongheaded, bigoted, or downright dangerous" idea.

Another personal attack by Zimdog against me. I have never denigrated allied soldiers for being African or muslim (in fact I praised an African WWII hero in post #78). Rather, I have simply sought a more accurate accounting of the numbers and roles of French colonial muslims on the allied side than has been given to date.

2) Donna does not believe the Baha'i concept of God is the same as the Christian and Jewish concept of God. This is the official Iranian position on the Baha'i faith.

Another personal attack by Zimdog against Donna. She is entitled to hold that religious belief without being slandered as a bigot or maliciously compared to Mahmoud Ahmadinejad by zimdog

3) You have consistently downplayed the heroic service of Muslim Africans in World War 2 -- and African culture in general -- for no reason other than your personal dislike of the people or their religion.

Another false personal attack against me by zimdog. I have never insulted muslim African soldiers in WWII - merely demanded an accurate accounting of their numbers, roles, and contributions from a poster with a long history of fabricating those roles, fudging the numbers to suit his arguments, and using disreputable marxist internet sources to support them.

4) As mentioned before, eleni121 preferred to insult all World War 2 veterans rather than praise a Muslim. That's bigotry.

Another personal attack by Zimdog. Eleni121 made no such insult. Rather she simply asked for substantiation of questionable claims about the size and nature of muslim support for the allies in WWII and for that she was called a bigot by a poster with a long and documented history of personally attacking people with false allegations of "racism" and "bigotry."

5) When you say: Falsely accuses several freepers of bigotry - "A lot of the bigots posting on this thread not only can't tell the difference between Arabs and Muslims" you're dishonestly giving only half of my quote, it continues "they insist that there is no difference." And certainly, insisting that all Arabs are Muslims -- in the face of glaring evidence to the contrary -- is bigoted.

Another personal attack by Zimdog against multiple freepers. There are very few if any freepers out there denying that there's such a thing as a non-arab muslim. Zimdog invented this strawman slander to justify his personal attacks on other freepers.

And this is what I mean when I say you misrepresent my arguments. Because you do. You fill your snide, behind-the-back posts with voluminous lists of carefully selected half-truths designed to make me look bad.

Another long list of personal attacks by Zimdog against me.

Please stop. And if you won't. I'll ask the Moderators directly: Please make him stop.

...and an admission by Zimdog that his purpose here is not to discuss, but rather an effort to penalize any Freeper who disagrees with him or objects to his abusive and inflamatory personal attacks on them.

176 posted on 02/16/2007 10:23:29 PM PST by lqclamar ("That's it, Seth, you can't blame them. It's want of education. That's all it is.")
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