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To: zimdog
He may call himself muslim (or he may not) -- never heard of him must be one of those French colonials who fought for deGaulle and are getting their pension - but if he is then he is an apostate:

The Qur'an says: "Fight and slay the pagans [Christians] wherever ye find them and seize them, confine them, and lie in wait for them in every place of ambush" (Surah 9:5)

But zzzim--keep looking hard---you might find another one.
114 posted on 02/16/2007 2:01:45 PM PST by eleni121 ( + En Touto Nika! By this sign conquer! + Constantine the Great))
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To: eleni121
He may call himself muslim (or he may not) --

I believe he does. His name is Ousmane and he's from Senegal. If a Muslim name and a Muslim country of origin are all you need to be sure that this SLC murderer is a stark raving Islamist, then certainly you'll agree that Mr. Kasse is a Muslim.

never heard of him must be one of those French colonials who fought for deGaulle and are getting their pension

The troops whose accomplishments you derided in #82 as a "muslim fantasy"? Whose very existence you dismissed in #73 as "bizarre macchiavelian rewriting of history"? Glad to see you're coming around to reality.

but if he is then he is an apostate:

The Qur'an says: "Fight and slay the pagans [Christians] wherever ye find them and seize them, confine them, and lie in wait for them in every place of ambush" (Surah 9:5)

First and foremost, I don't think Mr. Kasse asked for you to opine on his piety.

Second, there are three things wrong with your Qur'anic exegesis and its application to WW2. Namely:

1) The passage in question refers to the Battle of Tabuk, which was not in WW2.

2) You mistranslate. The Arabic work for pagans/idolaters is kuffar and the word for Christians is nasara.

3) It has been stated before that the Nazi leadership did not practice Christianity, nor did they belong to any of the schismatic/heretic sects claiming to be Christian. Rather, their religious beliefs were a sort of neo-paganism. Thus, if you want to apply Qur'an 9:5 to the 20th century, it would be the 13th Handschar's Muslims who were the apostates, as they not only did not fight the Nazi pagans, but sided with them.

Thanks for playing.

116 posted on 02/16/2007 3:06:52 PM PST by zimdog
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