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To: Beagle8U
You run into problems with that with social issues if those are defined as God, Guns, and Gays, because Conservatives tend to be Christian and want Gov out of that.

I wouldn't say 'problems', just that it does make many Christians 'liberals' -- in that they want govt solutions to what others consider personal issues.

Gays, I don't get ya'lls problem with.

The one sticky issue is, I do understand the idea that ya'll want to defend the unborn child. I fully understand that abortion *is* the killing of a human being. In fact, premeditated killing, hence by definition it's murder.

But I personally don't think that killing a human is always a bad thing. I think really bad people should be killed. I have no problem with assisted suicide. And I feel that an unborn child is at such an incomplete state of development that aborting it in the first few months is no big deal.

The issue becomes 'personal' because of the woman carrying the baby. She has a right to decide what she wants to do with her body, and in one sense that baby is infringing on her rights, so to speak (in my, and many others', opinion, of course).

So by my thinking, some Christians who would ban abortion for others are 'liberals', in that they want a liberal use of govt power to control what that woman can do with her body.

997 posted on 02/01/2007 2:50:41 PM PST by Dominic Harr (Conservative: The "ant", to a liberal's "grasshopper".)
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To: Dominic Harr
"And I feel that an unborn child is at such an incomplete state of development that aborting it in the first few months is no big deal."

Its a big deal to me and most other Christians but I won't get into a debate on it now.

I really fear that the social issues that some in the party don't think wouldn't be a big deal could cause a landslide loss in 08. I hope not.

We only get one vote but if you're politically active you can bring out others to vote based on the issues.

Where I live I can only get those voters to the polls on the guns, abortion, and gay issues. ( the gay stuff is also a religious issue).

If our candidate can't be sold on those issues I'm back to only one single vote. The Republican party loses several hundred votes just in my small area.

I could be wrong, but I can see that happening everywhere to some extent.
1,002 posted on 02/01/2007 3:51:29 PM PST by Beagle8U (Thompson / Hunter 2008)
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