Posted on 01/14/2007 5:31:07 PM PST by Tim Long
--At best- the two methods above are only accurate to about 11,000 years due to numerous conditions and environmental uncertainties--
Thanks. Fifty thousand years plus or minus 11,000 years is still greater than 6,000 years.
The saddest thing about these efforts to promote non-scientific fantasies is that they completely ignore the great truth known to many many thoughtful, serious and intelligent theologians (a truth also known to many scientists), that religion and science, on the most basic level, are talking about two different things and are not in direct competition with each other.
That competition only exists in the small minds on each side. Richard Dawkins, for example, is the quintessential small-minded scientist, tilting at the windmills of what he sees as The Dangers Of Religion.
Creationists are the small minds of theology, imagining that they have to invent a "science" to "prove them right". Creationists know nothing about science, that goes without saying. But sadly, Creationists also know precious little about religion. They share the ignorant attitude of Dawkins, that religion must be somehow "scientifically correct" for it to be valid.
A pox on both their houses.
Sure thing, but they are dead now, so it won't matter much. BTW, better report all them evil Jesuits too, they also teach science.
Then grabbed a cup of coffee, sat back to watch, every so often says, "Wow! I can't believe it did that!" And on rarer occasions, says, "I wonder what happens if I give it a nudge right here."
Dendrochronology actually supports the radiocarbon method; the calibration curve for the US is now past 12,600 years (not 10,000).
If you think you have evidence for a 6,000 year old earth or for inaccuracy in the radiocarbon method, then post it. Long cut and pastes that you don't understand don't help your argument.
I recall learning about quite a few other chemical/radioactive tests whilst in archaeology school - not just radiocarbon - do you have stats on those as well? I get kind of nervous myself whenever radiocarbon is used as the definitive test for paleological specimens...seems we are dealing with completely different chemical and radiological factors.
When did the Cambrian explosion occur, and how long did the "explosion" last?
It's a biological impossibility for species to evolve- there are built in protection levels that prevent it-
Can you describe what these "built in protection levels" consist of and how they work?
THANK YOU! - EXACTLY HOW I FEEL!
Who was it that began the scientific method? MONKS Why? Because they wanted to know the mind of God...and God granted them the Holy Spirit to discover His creation. All else is just fascination.
I can't comment on the 6,000 year thing, but I believe dinosaurs were described in the Bible - and not as fossils but as living breathing creatures that the reader understood.
Just look up behemoth and leviathon. No matter what your Bible concordance may say, they were not an elephant or an aligator. ;)
And you know that how?
Great Image! Thanks!
>>And you know that how?<<
By reading it.
Radiocarbon only goes back some 50,000 years. Older samples, and samples not containing carbon, require other methods.
Here is a link I posted earlier that has some good information:
Radiometric Dating: A Christian Perspective by Dr. Roger C. Wiens.
Thnak you for eloquently putting so many people's thoughts into such few, but accurate, words. I am sure you will be flamed for it, but often the truth hurts. To many people have gone from worshipping God to worshipping the Bible and have fallen into the trap you describe.
God did.
As have I. Job describes a behemoth as eating grass like an ox and drinking up the Jordan, which seems to leave out a whole host of meat-eating dinosaurs. A leviathan seems to be limited to the sea. So how do you really know that Job wasn't talking about elephants and whales?
Read the description of the Behemoths tail, and then look at a picture of an elephants rump. Also, I don't really "know". I specifically used the word "believe" in my original post very consciously on purpose.
None of us were there so none of us really KNOW anything beyond our own lifespan. ;)
Just a thought...
Objects in a gravitational field of a black hole experience a slowing down of time, that is called time dilation.
you sound pretty self righteous...many creationists do know alot about science. They are simply showing how amazing scientific discoveries show an author to them. That is not small minds. And many of the great scientists of the past and of the present are religious people too. Religion and science are intertwinned...there is no divorce between the two except in the minds of most darwinists.
it's worse than that- I was being generous giving huge leway- radio carbon dating goes wonky after much less than 50,000 due to condiotions that are less than ideal- Which evo's fail to account for or even concider
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